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The "Experience Factor" - here’s an answer
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, March 06, 2008

And the answer to a number of right-wing fantasies as well:
IF AL GORE can pull himself away from saving the planet long enough, he might want to consider rescuing the Demo cratic Party from the clutches of utter self-destruction.

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That leaves Al Gore as the only person with the experience to answer the red phone and force a peaceful end to this civil war.

The inconvenient truth is that the red phone is now ringing and Al Gore hears it. The only question is whether he has the guts to pick it up.
There is indeed a faction on the left who want a Gore presidency badly. And for a variety of reasons, one of which, of course, has to do with global warming and their belief that we're on an irreversible road to ruin unless we do something expensive and do it now. Al Gore would facilitate that. He'd also rescue the Democratic party from itself.

The only problem is you can't have two messiahs in the same religion.
 
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But Al Gore doesn’t conform to current Democratic Party beliefs on NAFTA.

Afterall, he "beat" Ross Perot in the NAFTA debate on CNN.
 
Written By: Neo
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Actually I think you’re reading the Democrats view of Gore as the narrow sort anti-Gore focus some on the right have. Gore is liked by a lot of democrats for a variety of reasons, and he certainly has gravitas.

But it would be premature for him to do anything yet. If the convention nears and there is real chaos, he might indeed end up on top. Anything can happen.

As for NAFTA — in Ohio NAFTA was a big issue, but even Obama and Clinton altered their rhetoric somewhat in Texas. I don’t expect the Democrats to emerge in the fall as anti-NAFTA.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
don’t expect the Democrats to emerge in the fall
So was CTV right ? Was it all a "lie" or just a small "fib" ?

I’ll take into consideration that politicians are "both liars and cheats .. when they are not kissing babies, they’re trying to steal their lollipops".
 
Written By: Neo
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So let me get this straight...If Obama or Hillary get the super delegates, half the party will be upset, so the solution is to choose a man that didn’t even run and get BOTH halves of the Party upset?! This is SOLUTION? Sure a solution a Republican could love, but really no sane Democrat believes this is a solution.
 
Written By: Joe
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Hi there,

You write very well. I was reading over your blog and I thought you’d be a great addition to our new online community, polzoo.com. We only launched three weeks ago, but so far our daily hits have tripled already. We are a user generated political editorial and social network, we choose amongst our own bloggers to feature on the front page. I think your voice would be a great addition. Come check us out.
 
Written By: polzoo
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Hey, I watched that debate too, Scott, and heard how they were both most definite about demanding renegotiating that nasty ol’ NAFTA treaty...or else - kaboom. Yeah, they sure did change their tune in Texas. And now you say the Dems won’t emerge as "anti-NAFTA" in the fall. (which is a comfort, considering Mexico and Canada are two of our closest trading partners...Phew!)

The big HOWEVER: With all the epithets delivered these last 7 years about Bush being such a liar, why, in God’s green earth, should anyone get behind either of those two lying Dems who speak out of one side of their mouth when they are in Ohio and the other side when they are in Texas.

My momma didn’t raise a fool. Snake-oil salesmen, the both of them.
 
Written By: marybel
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As for NAFTA — in Ohio NAFTA was a big issue, but even Obama and Clinton altered their rhetoric somewhat in Texas. I don’t expect the Democrats to emerge in the fall as anti-NAFTA.
I’m expecting you to be wrong on this one. Ohio is more in play than Texas. Therefore, the Dems will be trying harder to win Ohio...and will play up anti-NAFTA sentiments.
 
Written By: Steverino
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...their belief that we’re on an irreversible road to ruin unless we do something expensive and do it now.
The ’made my day’ quote.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Look, when you go to a Republican caucus in Texas, and you have loonies claiming soon we’re going to be an ’EU’ branch in North American (where we’ll all be one big government UNITEDCANAMEXICO or some such blather), it’s obviously not only the Democrats you need to worry about if you think NAFTA is a good idea.

 
Written By: looker
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This one will leave a mark .. Clinton aide compares Obama to Ken Starr
 
Written By: Neo
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Actually I think you’re reading the Democrats view of Gore as the narrow sort anti-Gore focus some on the right have. Gore is liked by a lot of democrats for a variety of reasons
really? I wouldn’t have guessed it from McQ’s post, where he said:
There is indeed a faction on the left who want a Gore presidency badly. And for a variety of reasons, one of which, of course, has to do with global warming
Erb, do you even bother to read the posts before you spout off in the comments?
 
Written By: meh
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Erb, do you even bother to read the posts before you spout off in the comments?
I don’t know about Erb, but I fade in and out.
 
Written By: Is
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This feeds into the Al Gore scenario.

At least they will get their sleep.
 
Written By: Neo
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If Al Gore is the only one who can save the democratic party then they are in much better shape than they have ever been. The only thing he can save is a penguin in a zoo.

Personly I think it will take 2 people to save the democratic party. Hillary meete Mr Smith and Mr Wesson. (*I am not advocating anyone attempt to kill her I am just saying I think that is the only way to save the democratic party8).

Hillary reminds me of a wife on an episode of Gray’s anatomy. The democratic party would be her husband. The woman checked into the hospital for her SIXTH open heart surgery. Her husband was henpecked to death. She bitched about EVERYTHING. She didnt have any water. When he got it it wasnt cold enough, the ice chips were too big, her pillow was too soft, etc etc etc.
During the operation her heart caught on fire when they tried to restart it. They got the fire out and everything was okay.

THey talked to the husband, and told him that even though his wife’s heart caught on fire she would be fine. The husband started laughing hysterically. He was barely able to gasp out between guffaws. "Her heart caught on fire during her 6th Open heart surgery and you are telling me that she will be fine. She is like the beast that wouldnt die. "

When he was able to control himself, he handed the doctors her things and said "Tell her I said good luck". Then he walked out.

Hopefully the dems will do the same thing to Hillary.






 
Written By: retired military
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Bad news for B HO.
 
Written By: Neo
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Yesterday, the founder of The Weather Channel called Gore a fraud and suggested suing him and anyone else who sells carbon credits. That would make for some spicy debate material before the election.
 
Written By: the wolf
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My momma didn’t raise a fool. Snake-oil salesmen, the both of them.
That’s the majority of politicians from both parties — it’s just that Republicans notice it in Democrats, and Democrats notice it in Republicans. Neither side can claim virtue as theirs.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
It is hard to take serious someone who lost in 2000 when he was VP to Clinton, running against W (who always had communication problems).

It is also hard to take serious someone who thinks GW is our biggest threat.

Gore is a looser. Simple as that.
 
Written By: Don
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It is hard to take serious someone who lost in 2000 when he was VP to Clinton, running against W (who always had communication problems).

It is also hard to take serious someone who thinks GW is our biggest threat.

Gore is a looser. Simple as that.
 
Written By: Don
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That’s the majority of politicians from both parties — it’s just that Republicans notice it in Democrats, and Democrats notice it in Republicans. Neither side can claim virtue as theirs.
How does that apply to, say, W? Or his dad? Or Reagan?

In the case of W, sure, lot’s of people don’t care for him, but it ain’t ’cause he’s a "snake oil salesman". In fact, I’d argue that W’s lack of salesmanship is a key factor in why he isn’t liked. Conservatives don’t like him ’cause he compromised on specific issues, while the left doesn’t like him ’cause he’s a Republican. His main problem with moderates is his comparatively poor communication skills, IMO.
 
Written By: Don
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Actually I think you’re reading the Democrats view of Gore as the narrow sort anti-Gore focus some on the right have. Gore is liked by a lot of democrats for a variety of reasons, and he certainly has gravitas.
Yeah, but you think Carter is a great man, you think that the Swift Boat vets were lying about Kerry, and you think Juan Cole is a good source on the ME.

You simply don’t have a clue.
 
Written By: Don
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W’s the post poll driven politician ever, and what he said and did have often been two very different things. The dirty politics era really got worse with his dad, who relied on Lee Atwater, and certainly did not play virtuous politics. Reagan and Carter were both better than average, but let’s not forget Iran-Contra and all the unanswered questions there.

No, if anyone thinks that their party of preference somehow behaves in a more moral manner than the other, they’re like someone who thinks that their favorite football team plays fair and without cheap shots, while all the others are nasty. Sure, there may be some who are especially bad, like the old Oakland Raiders, but in general, they’re all playing the same game, and using basically the same tactics.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm

 
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