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US 22nd most "stable and prosperous" nation. Or is it 24th?
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, March 25, 2008

So which countries are in the top 10?

Well, including the UK at number 7:
The top ten comprise also the Vatican, Sweden, Luxembourg, Monaco, Gibraltar, San Marino, Liechtenstein, the Netherlands and the Irish Republic.
Good grief, we have malls bigger than most of those places.

The source is Jane's Information Services, which, upon a cursory examination of their linked website, yielded nothing resembling a study about stability and prosperity among nations.

The Times then claims:
The US lies 22nd and Switzerland, normally associated with wealth and untouchable stability, is rated 17th, losing points in the assessment of its social achievements.
And then provides a list which has the US 24th. Hey, at least we beat Belgium, edged out Japan and thankfully are better off than the Falkland Islands.

Falkland Islands?

So I have no idea what the criteria were or how they were applied to a rating, but be assured, Switzerland should be properly chastened for losing points because of its "social achievements" or lack thereof.

The bottom 10?
They are listed as Gaza and the West Bank, Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Ivory Coast, Haiti, Zimbabwe, Chad, the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Central African Republic.
Surprisingly no Iraq. And Iran? Didn't even make the top 50, which, I'm sure, will frost Ahmadinejad to no end. And our boy Hugo missed the top 50 too.

But Anguilla and St Pierre and Miquelon made it.

Uh, well of course they did. Why shouldn't they?

A commenter at the Times site notes:
Saint Pierre and Miquelon is a curious inclusion. A territory of France, 25 km off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada, population ~6000, per capita GDP $6800. Stable, I suppose. Prosperous, mainly an economy based on fishing which is now is serious decline.
I'd move there but they were only 42nd so I'll have to suffer thorough continuing to live in the number 24 place in the world.

Eh. Looks like more Euro-I-feel-superior fodder for the masses, this time provided by a company who's strength is defense reporting.

I'm convinced.
 
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Right. And when immigrants are looking for freedom and opportunity, they’re all racing to Gibraltar.
 
Written By: the wolf
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Uh, oh. Erb’s not going to like this:
He explained that Iraq had managed to escape the ignominy of being in the bottom ten because, despite “extremely high levels of violence”, it had a “relatively stable Government” that controlled a significant area of the country and had good economic prospects.
Iraq is a complete FAILURE and he WILL NOT ALLOW history to characterize it as a success. Get crackin’, Erb.
 
Written By: Jeff
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Well, I read part of it and it said the US was hurt by widespread private arms ownership . . . making the US less stable, I presume. LOL.
 
Written By: Don
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You get more points for sleepy==stable
 
Written By: Neo
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Zimbabwe
Aren’t they in charge of the UN commitee for sustainable economies or something?
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Besides fishing a good deal of St. Pierre’s income comes from smuggling. Newfoundlanders from the Burin Peninsula which is a short boat ride away frequently make runs to the islands for duty free booze and cigarettes.

Or at least they used to when I was a boy living in Newfoundland....
 
Written By: Thye Meatriarchy
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Notwithstanding the fact that many of the countries in the study’s top ten were tax havens like Monaco, Lichtenstein and Gibraltar, the Times Online story states that
Mr Le Mière said that the US had fallen down the scale, although it still scored an average of 93 out of 100, partly because of the proliferation of small arms owned by Americans and the threat to the population posed by the flow of drugs from across the Mexican border.
Liberals will no doubt cite this study as evidence of our need for a more socialist state, however it seems that the criteria used in this study were related to some of our freedoms and the porous border with Mexico. If it weren’t for Democrats lusting after the votes of millions of poor, third worlders and leveling racism charges against those in favor of enforcing immigration laws we would have greater stability as it was apparently defined in this study.
 
Written By: jt007
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The proliferation of small arms??????

When did that start?
Last year?, the year before?, 5 years ago?
Was there a magic number we finally hit?
 
Written By: looker
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You have to look at this in the right context — they are talking about stability from the point of view of the current government. So, hell yes, the governments of Switzerland and the US (high gun ownership in the general population) do face a stability issue — if they go too far, we have the means to throw them out. The Swedes and Brits don’t have that option anymore, so their government is more "stable".

I’ll have a little more instability myself, thank you.
 
Written By: Phelps
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Lack of "social achievements" is just a PC way of saying standard of living, schmandard of schliving, we just have too much damned freedom here.
 
Written By: Xrlq
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Looks a lot like the World Health Organization study. I wonder if Gibraltarians(?) are worried about the word getting out and suddenly immigrants are bespoiling Utopia.
 
Written By: rob
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I have a feeling that the current Supreme Court gun case is going to lower us on the list. Something we should take pride in.
 
Written By: Don
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1 Vatican
.. and my mother wanted me to go to the seminary.
 
Written By: Neo
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One thing to consider is that many of these "top" places owe their security, stability, and safety to someone else’s military capability. With that understood, how can they make a claim to security and stability?

 
Written By: Don
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Don,
As prof Erb has said many times, the Europeans think we’re foolish for spending all that money on the military. They don’t really NEED our protection. In a pinch we should recall the Germans personally managed the defense of large parts of Europe for several years and I’m sure the other countries (except France of course) would be happy to let them ’defend’ Europe again under the right circumstances.
 
Written By: looker
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Looker,

I get the tounge-in-cheek element of your post, but my response is strait-faced:

Those little (tiny) countries at the top of the list couldn’t defend themselves if they devoted themselves to it 100%. They are just too small for that, at least Germany or France has the capability for a decent military.

Besides that, they achieve prosparity in large part do to a nitch they have in the existing order; they won’t necessarly fare well under other circumstances.

 
Written By: Don
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Prof Erb doesn’t think they actually need any military - it’s all going to be happy trade trade and agreements between like minded parties in Europe, the Middle East, Russia and China who are interested in free trade and freedom while sadly shaking their head at the world realignment and the decline of the United States to a second tier power.

You can see how well that’s going to work, right?

At any rate, the idea that Europe is happily sitting in the shade provided by America’s shield arm is pooh-poohed by the intelligentsia who know these things Don.
We’re just idiots for thinking the Pax Americana is necessary, or even real.
 
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