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Dems: Whispering Al Gore’s name
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, March 27, 2008

What happens if the Dem deadlock goes all the way to the convention?
“If it (the nomination process) goes into the convention, don’t be surprised if someone different is at the top of the ticket,” Mahoney said.

A compromise candidate could be someone such as former vice president Al Gore, Mahoney said last week during a meeting with this news organization’s editorial board.
Taegan Goddard discusses two options including the Gore option:
Talk of a joint ticket — Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama — might be an elegant solution to the problem. But what if Clinton wins the popular vote and Obama wins the majority of delegates? What if the next two months of campaigning turns so ugly they can't stand each other? Would either candidate willingly step aside to take the number two spot?
I think the longer the contest goes on the less and less likely the "dream ticket" will be a reality. In fact, I see it as very unlikely now. Neither thinks the other could win in the general election against McCain and you'd have to wonder why, if that's the case, they'd want to tie themselves to a losing ticket. Either, I think, would prefer a fresh start in 2012 that playing second fiddle to the other (although, especially in the case of Obama, I think it would be beneficial to him in the long run as it would put to rest the general experience question as well as some level of executive experience).

As for the second option?
The answer might be for someone else entirely to step into the race at the convention. The most likely candidate would be Al Gore. Most Democrats think he was robbed of the presidency in 2000 by the Supreme Court and could be the only one to unite the party.
Gore didn't have it in 2000 and he doesn't have it now. And who would he pick as his running mate. You have to assume one of the two present candidates. As the polls have shown, that's going to leave the other candidate's voters very unsatisfied and may, in fact, be something which would further split the party instead of unifying it.
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A Congressman from Florida suggested much the same thing earlier this week vis a vis Gore. As I noted on Monday, it’s an absurd idea:
Mahoney’s “compromise” is, in a word, absurd. There’s simply no way that Clinton and Obama, and their supporters, are going to accept the idea that someone who has spent the last year sitting on the sidelines collected royalty checks from his movie, along with generous speaking fees, and a Nobel Peace Prize, is going to somehow waltz into Denver and take the top spot on the ticket.

While neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to walk into the convention with enough pledged delegates to win the nomination, one of them will walk in with the most pledged delegates and a majority of the popular vote. It will then be up to Mahoney and the rest of the superdelegates to decide what they’re going to do.

But that, I think, is really what Mahoney’s fantasy is all about.

He doesn’t want to make a choice between Obama and Clinton. And he especially doesn’t want to have to face the consequences of that choice later on down the line, whatever they might be. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of other superdelegates feel the same way. Unfortunately, though, the byzantine nomination process that that Democratic Party created has led to this and they will have to make a choice whether they like it or not.

There isn’t going to be a savior coming in at the last minute to relieve the superdelegates from doing their job.
 
Written By: Doug Mataconis
URL: http://www.belowthebeltway,com
Every vote counts! Don’t disenfranchise the voters! But lets put a guy who wasn’t on any ballot and didn’t receive any votes ahead of the 2 candidates the people have expressed a preference for because we don’t have the stomach to settle the problem on way or the other!

——Sheesh, even the Dems can’t be so stupid as to do THAT
 
Written By: shark
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A Goracle endorsement, however, could advance either candidate in a minor but not insignificant way.

Something tells me that his interest lies in more GW legislation which makes him and his buddies money. He probably doesn’t want to alienate a potential President. However, if Obama was close enough that a Gore endorsement would seal the deal, I’d expect Gore to step forward and give it at that time.
 
Written By: jpm100
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As someone else said elsewhere...

"An Inconvinient Truce"
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I’m not so sure that this is the "Dream Ticket".

Given that AGW is having increasing trouble, an Al Gore campaign about now could cause the fall of both, as AGW will be the center of the campaign for many.

Given that Al has wrapped himself around AGW, I strongly suggest that those who would like to see him run take a close look at the growing body of information that has made AGW more than unsettled science. This is what will be used by many to base their decision on a vote for/against for an Al Gore Presidency.

Al has doen a great job of dodging any real debate on the subject matter that has given him a Nobel Prize. Running for President will make him put up or shut up.

It might not be pretty.
 
Written By: Neo
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Well, there is a bonus with Gore in that you still get your first woman president, although slightly to the postmodern side of the concept.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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That could be high comedy indeed if Gore stepped in and perhaps a fitting ending to this craziest of election seasons I’ve ever seen.

Think about one scenario, both Hillary’s and Obama’s supporters are so upset they vote for Nader.
In other words, imagine Nader stealing another election from Gore.

 
Written By: Veeshir
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The only way the democrats can win in November would be for Hillary Rodham Clinton to step aside and throw her support behind Barack Hussein Obama. Urban black votes are essential for any democrat candidate to be elected president, and he is the only democrat who can deliver (or deny) those votes. It is clear that unless Obama is on the top of the ticket, they will not support the democrat party. In a recent poll, 19% of Barack’s supporters said that unless he is on the top of the ticket, they will vote for McCain.

Hillary is enough of a problem without bad feelings among black voters. The newly minted freshmen democrats from red states are worried about the result her negatives will have on their reelections. Those republicans who, out of disgust with corrupt, immoral, tax and spend GOP congressmen, sat out in 2006, will be back in 2008 if Clinton is on the ballot.

Of course, Clinton will not cede the nomination to Obama until the primaries are over, the issue of Florida and Michigan are settled and every super delegate is committed. The food fight in Denver will be an event to behold.
 
Written By: Arch
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Don’t throw the possibility of a Gore ticket out too quickly. Many people believe Gore’s 2000 election was stolen and with his newly won celebrity, these same people would see it as Righting a Wrong. That could even be their campaign slogan - Right all Wrongs - Yes We Can. Combine Gore with Obama and watch flowers bloom at the Democratic Convention. Gore would, in one move, get even with the Clintons, insure the electablity of the Democratic ticket, and set up Obama as the favored son for the next run - Insuring Democratic dominance of the Presidency for the next 16 years. That is how the Dems would see it, whether it be a flight of fancy or not.
 
Written By: SShiell
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With the above scenario, Gore would also be seen as the Democratic Savior - saving the party from the disastrous floor fight and the horror of another November defeat at the hands of the hated Republicans.
 
Written By: SShiell
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Every vote counts! Don’t disenfranchise the voters! But lets put a guy who wasn’t on any ballot and didn’t receive any votes ahead of the 2 candidates the people have expressed a preference for because we don’t have the stomach to settle the problem on way or the other!
You are missing several critical points:

1) Gore was robbed in 2000.

2) Anything is acceptable if it sets the stolen election of 2000 right (left?).

A military coup would be ok with the Democrats who think Bush stole the 2000 election . . . as long as the result was Gore as president.
 
Written By: Don
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Given that Al has wrapped himself around AGW, I strongly suggest that those who would like to see him run take a close look at the growing body of information that has made AGW more than unsettled science. This is what will be used by many to base their decision on a vote for/against for an Al Gore Presidency.
A key point is that Gore has made a questionable theory a priority, at a time when we have real enemies attempting to kill us. And, if we act on the questionable theory in a serious manner, we would destroy our economy, which is our basis of our defense against our enemies.

Even aside from the 2000 temper tantrum, Gore is not a serious man. And a lot of Democrats don’t seem to grasp this.

But then, they supported Kerry in 2004 because they thought his ~3.5 months of service ~35 years prior made for better commander-in-chief credentials than the sitting president . . .
 
Written By: Don
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Gore himself acknowledged that he lost, and that George W. Bush was the legitimate winner. Gore would certainly be a strong candidate, but he’d need to lose a little weight.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Gore himself acknowledged that he lost,
After how many recounts?

Gore managed to show less class than Nixon. That’s a much bigger accomplishment than whatever psuedo-science he got that Euro prize for.
 
Written By: Don
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Gore managed to show less class than Nixon.
Don, you are the functional equivalent of a Democrat yelling "the election was stolen!" You, like the Democrats who refuse to acknowledge the result, are spouting partisan BS. Gore had a legitimate right to demand a recount in such a close race, and he exercised it. He believed, like many, that a full recount would show him the winner. The Supreme Court ultimately disagreed that this was required, and Gore took the decision and accepted it with grace.

Republicans that still try to attack Gore don’t get it: he played by the rules and did nothing Bush wouldn’t have done if the shoe were on the other foot. Democrats that cry "we were robbed" don’t get it. Bush also played by the rules, and it came out in his favor. Both sides who harbor ill will towards the other side because of that disagreement need to let it go.

Though, I suppose if he does get the nomination, he will end up being compared to Nixon — a VP that loses only to come back to win eight years later.

Gore is one of the most respected people on the planet, I think he might be better off enjoying his prestige than dirtying himself with a political campaign. He has it good; deep down, he probably realizes that losing the election was, at least for him personally, a good thing.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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Boris:
Gore is one of the most respected people on the planet,
I’ll throw caution to the wind and even say he’s up there with Michael Jackson.
I think he might be better off enjoying his prestige than dirtying himself with a political campaign.
Yes, and thank God that Gore never teamed up with the Clintons in any of their campaigns. Think of what that would have done to his reputation.

Though I doubt that he’s enjoying "his prestige" so much as he’s enjoying the cash that’s rolling in from the climate change con, or living in his new megawatt house. Who was that fool who said that the Vice Presidency wasn’t worth a bucket of warm spit?

But let’s take satisfaction that the Nobel Peace Prize was never diminished in its glory by having ever been awarded to anyone like Yassir Arafat. Those Norwegians have kept the thing pure.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
The Supreme Court ultimately disagreed that this was required, and Gore took the decision and accepted it with grace.
That’s not at all what the Supreme Court decided. The court felt that (a) a recount without uniform standards would violate the Equal Protection clause, (b) that the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court was probably unconstitutional, and (c) the Florida Supreme Court had violated 3 USC Section 5, regarding having election rules in place before the election.

From Cornell Law
 
Written By: Steverino
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Don, you are the functional equivalent of a Democrat yelling "the election was stolen!" You, like the Democrats who refuse to acknowledge the result, are spouting partisan BS. Gore had a legitimate right to demand a recount in such a close race, and he exercised it. He believed, like many, that a full recount would show him the winner. The Supreme Court ultimately disagreed that this was required, and Gore took the decision and accepted it with grace.
No, he was a sore looser. The recounts were based upon interpretations of voter intent, pure BS fishing for votes any way possible.

While it is true that Gore had a legitimate right to demand a recount, so did Nixon. And Nixon had the class to accept the decision, because doing so was best for the country. Gore pressed on until he resonably couldn’t do otherwise.

 
Written By: Don
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