She didn’t lie, she "misspoke".
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Robb Allen
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Presuming it’s the same basic story I saw somewhere or other in Blogistan (sorry, can’t remember which one) a few weeks ago, this is a bubble in a teacup. It was gone over in detail there, and among the points raised was that Zeifman did not have the power to fire her, and that the consipiracy amounted to nothing more than HRC following the directions of higher ranking staffers and committee members. There were other points raised regarding Zeifman’s credibility and various other details of his account, but I don’t remember enough to summarize them in any usable fashion. The basic conclusion there was simply that the story provided evidence of nothing beyond Zeifman’s dislike of HRC.
For the moment, Tuzla is still the best smoking gun—recent enough and obvious enough for people to understand. |
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kishnevi
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Some of the details are obviously checkable, and I’m not sure Zeifman didn’t have the authority to fire how. How do you know? If he was chief of staff he might well have in 1974. I don’t know about now. And, as I remember it, "I vas chooost followink orrrrrders" is not regarded a an adequate defense for criminal acts.
While the story proves nothing, it offers clues which could be followed up. Why the rush to dismiss what appear to be plausible charges. Going over in detail is not quite the same as thoroughly investigating, is it? |
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Earlier, I was tempted to write that I would be careful with this. Here is a point:"Some of the details are obviously checkable, and I’m not sure Zeifman didn’t have the authority to fire how. How do you know? If he was chief of staff he might well have in 1974." Ziefman was Chief Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee. Rodham worked for John Doar, who was appointed in December 1973 as Special Counsel to the Committee for the impeachment investigation. It is at least very plausible, if not outright certainty, that Ziefman did not have the authority to fire Rodham.
None of this is news. Anyone who read David Brock’s "The Seduction of Hillary Rodham" over a decade ago is familiar with this stuff.
It’s still the single most important book for understanding who and what she is.
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Billy Beck
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I just read Morrissey’s effort. Originally, the man could not distinguish where in Congress the action was taking place, back in the day.
I’m not impressed.
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Billy Beck
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McKie—I’m not rushing it. I’m just pointing out this story is has already been out there for a few weeks, and already been answered by the proHRC forces. It will be easy for her to get this dismissed from the public eye. And there are other points, like the snipers of Tuzla, that the public will grok much easier, and for which there’s unassailable evidence. |
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kishnevi
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As I’ve already pointed out, this story has been "out there" for more than ten years. That ought to be a story in itself. However, the meat of the thing really is important, whether or not Rodham can sweep it down the memory-hole.
In its essence, it should make Tuzla simply disappear as a story. This is like a snapshot of the young Stalin as a bank-robber: if you knew what you were looking at, you could see him coming a mile away.
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Billy Beck
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It was not until two months after Nixon’s resignation that I first learned of still another
questionable role of Hillary. On Sept. 26, 1974, Rep. Charles Wiggins, a
Republican member of the committee, wrote to ask Chairman Rodino to look into “a
troubling set of events.” That spring, Wiggins and other committee members had
asked "that research should be undertaken so as to furnish a standard against
which to test the alleged abusive conduct of Richard Nixon." And, while "no such
staff study was made available to the members at any time for their use," Wiggins
had just learned that such a study had been conducted - at committee expense - by
a team of professors who completed and filed their reports with the impeachment-
inquiry staff well in advance of our public
hearings.
The report was kept secret from members of Congress. But after the impeachment-
inquiry staff was disbanded, it was published commercially and sold in book stores.
Wiggins wrote: “I am especially troubled by the possibility that information deemed
essential by some of the members in their discharge of their responsibilities may
have been intentionally suppressed by the staff during the course our investigation."
He was also concerned that staff members may have unlawfully received royalties
from the book’s publisher.
On Oct. 3, Rodino wrote back: "Hillary Rodham of the impeachment-inquiry staff
coordinated the work. The staff did not think the manuscript was useful in its present
form." No effort was ever made to ascertain whether or not Hillary or any other
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Neo
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In its essence, it should make Tuzla simply disappear as a story. And that’s the important point here.
Whether or not it has been out there for 10 or 20 years is incidental if it wasn’t known by the majority of people. And given the integrity problem she’s now suffering because of the Tuzla incident, its timing is both significant and damaging - unlike when it first surfaced all those many years ago (when she was just some politician’s wife). |
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McQ
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Aren’t the "Press" supposed to look into these kinds of things.
I mean, Clinton has run for Senate twice so you’d thunk by now somebody would have asked about her time on the Judiciary Committee or at least looked into it (not to mention Ken Starr).
She has one face-to-face meeting with Richard Mellon Scaife and wham!! This appears. |
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Neo
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"Aren’t the ’Press’ supposed to look into these kinds of things." Some of them were, when this story was making its first lap in Usenet, about 1996. They were looking at it.
They just weren’t telling you or anyone else that they were looking at it.
Another aspect that I find hilarious is how the right has slagged-off David Brock the way they have for so long. When his book first dropped, it was a great disappointment to them (presumably because he didn’t indict Rodham as a lesbian), which is probably what drove the boy into the loving ideological arms that he currently enjoys. Last night, I e-mailed Malkin to let her know that she should tell one of her Hot Air commenters the truth: Brock was quoting Ziefman in 1996.
Bruce:"Whether or not it has been out there for 10 or 20 years is incidental if it wasn’t known by the majority of people." The fact that something like this has been generally ignored (this is not the same as "unknown") for this long by ostensible "professionals" who like to make a lot of noise about their information value to the society, is not "incidental". That’s the point, and I think you know it.
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Written By:
Billy Beck
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27 years old....hm, wasn’t that during the same time period she alleged she considered serving her country as a US Marine?
How interesting.
Maybe she considered that as a direct result of this guy giving her the boot.
She should have tried for la Légion étrangère perhaps, because she’s obviously REALLY good at forgetting what really happened to her during her life. |
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looker
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I mean, Clinton has run for Senate twice so you’d thunk by now somebody would have asked about her time on the Judiciary Committee or at least looked into it (not to mention Ken Starr).
She has one face-to-face meeting with Richard Mellon Scaife and wham!! This appears. You misunderstand he source of this, I think.
She’s a threat to he attainment of power of the more liberal candidate, Obama.
It didn’t come out (again) before this, because she wasn’t a threat to the MOveOn Crowd.
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Bithead
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