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McCain: The Faustian Choice
Posted by: Dale Franks on Wednesday, April 02, 2008

Steven Bainbridge comments on John McCain's Annapolis speech today.
The speech is also a salutary reminder that McCain is a national greatness conservative rather than either a social or limited government conservative. The trouble with national greatness conservatives is that they need a crusade. Indeed, McCain’s speech admits it:
I discovered that nothing in life is more liberating than to fight for a cause that encompasses you but is not defined by your existence alone.


They need some calling that requires the American people to step up to the plate and hit a home run. In short, they need a war. Their paradigm is the so-called greatest generation and the crusade against fascism.

In the absence of war, they will settle for imperialism...

In this light, the claim advanced by some on the left that McCain would represent a third term for George Bush has a certain validity. Like Bush, although perhaps for different reasons, McCain is a big government conservative. If we learned anything from the Bush presidency, however, is that big government conservatism is an oxymoron. Bush has not advanced the conservative agenda. To the contrary, he has left the conservative agenda in shambles. Government is bigger but no more effective.
Read the whole thing. there's a lot there to chew on.
 
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I’d love to hear someone put the question to Limbaugh- if the choice is basically between a 1/2 (1/4??) loaf - McCain- and none at all - HillBama- who do you choose?

I say that because he’s been very entertaining with his operation chaos stuff and his incessant ragging on the GOP and McCain. But I’d like his take on that, because that’s sort of the dilemma most on the right have this year. I used to be in the "vote for neither" camp, but Hillary and Obama are just revealed to be hideous candidates, and I may reluctantly vote McCain, depending on his VP pick.

But it’s NOT cool. It may be that by taking no loaf at all, we can force change. But the price of that may be allowing the Dems time to advance their destructive agenda further.

Thanks GOP....
 
Written By: shark
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The short term risks on this election suck. Big Gov Conservative in McCain, or a Big Gov Liberal in the Dem pick.

No matter the choice (even if you vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all), you are going to end up with bigger government president. That choice is already made, the only choice left now for voters is which flavor do you want in power.
 
Written By: John
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So it’s a choice between the least of three evils.

The distinction is that as President, McCain will be swimming upstream against a Democrat House and Senate, making any initiatives he may have - even those the Democrats agree with - difficult to pass (they’ll vote against theirown interests just to spite Republicans). Further, he will be the last line of defense for Republicans against Democrat initiatives via the veto. In other words, McCain is the best chance for somelevel of gridlock.

If either Democrat candidate is elected with both houses behind him/her, we’ll be facing the next closest thing to socialism within the first term.

Which is one other plus for McCain - he’ll likely only last one term, giving the Republicans another chance to post up a conservative candidate and maybe take back some seats. Either of the Democrat candidates could very well get signed on for a second term given that people like ’free’ money handouts, and that the media will spend the entire first term telling us how wonderful ’their’ president is (anything bad will (still) be Bush’s fault).

McCain wasn’t even on my radar as a choice in the early primaries as I waited in vain for Thompson or Romney to catch fire. But come November I’ll vote for him with enthusiasm (well, sort of), given that not all evils are created equal.
 
Written By: S.
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Thinking of voting for McCain is indeed problematical.

It is easier for me if I do not consider the choice of the executive as if it is a decision in a vacuum. The Democrats will certainly increase their majorities in both the House and Senate, with a real possibility of securing a filibuster proof plurality in the Senate. The choice should be considered in the context of the possible resulting three branch government states as a whole. They are:
President - Speaker - Senate Majority Leader

Clinton (D) - Pelosi (D) - Reid (D)
Obama (D) - Pelosi (D) - Clinton (D)
McCain (R) - Pelosi (D) - Clinton (D)
It is an easier consideration when the choice is between a continuation of the relative fiscal restraint and enhanced oversight we get with divided government, or whether we really want a return to single party government. It is as easy a choice as whether we wanted to continue the disaster of single party government or to vote for divided government in 2006.
 
Written By: mw
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So it’s a choice between the least of three evils.

The distinction is that as President, McCain will be swimming upstream against a Democrat House and Senate, making any initiatives he may have - even those the Democrats agree with - difficult to pass (they’ll vote against theirown interests just to spite Republicans). Further, he will be the last line of defense for Republicans against Democrat initiatives via the veto. In other words, McCain is the best chance for somelevel of gridlock.

If either Democrat candidate is elected with both houses behind him/her, we’ll be facing the next closest thing to socialism within the first term.
I couldn’t disagree more. The opposite of everything you just said will likely happen.

McCain’s veto means nothing if he actually supports the Democrat’s policies.

We saw little to no opposition from Democrats when George Bush does something that grows the government. They will have no problem passing McCain’s policies that align with Democrats.

Not only will the Democrats love to get their way without a fight but the negative fallout will come back on McCain. You see the Democrats should be wielding more power having both houses on issues like Iraq (even with Bush’s veto powers). They don’t because when faced with the potential negative consequences coming back on them, their majority starts to crumble. But with the buck stopping at McCain Democrats will more fully support their more loony policies and many RINOs will likely join them.

McCain also is the path of ’boiling the frog slowly’ in shifting American politics as whole, leftward. If Obama or Clinton were elected, it cause a recoiling jump rightward for a while (a la Jimmy Carter).

And short of having a visible medical ailment, I don’t expect McCain to bow out after one term. So in ’12 we have the choice of another 4 years of McCain or a Democrat.

The Democrats are smiling, the won already. They like the direction the country will go with any of these three. They are only fighting to make it go faster.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Look, I will say that I didn’t like a lot of McCain’s speech, but I do think he had one good point. We’re all griping about our current choices for President this year, and any resident of Illinois knows what lousy options we’ve been getting for leadership lately, but no one seems to be willing to do much more than cast around for some other person that can swoop in and make it all better.

I’m not advocating that we all jump up and get jobs in any level of government bureaucracy, but I tend to agree with his exhortation to run for some level of public office. If our current "representatives" aren’t, then it’s incumbent upon us to change that problem.
 
Written By: Greg
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"With McCain, Hillary, and Obama in the race, all we need is one more horseman and we’ve got the Apocalypse."

(Robert Bidinotto)
 
Written By: Billy Beck
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I don’t want to read the whole thing, I find his candidacy to be depressing enough, thank you very much anyway. If I read more I might find that quote even more frightening.
 
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