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Air National Guard Pilot grounded for unauthoized Fenway Park flyover stunt
Posted by: McQ on Friday, April 11, 2008

Check this out:

Says the article:
The F-16 pilot flew under and over the other three F-16s in the formation at about 1,200 feet over Boston on Tuesday afternoon because he was going too fast and was late joining the formation, Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Lloyd Goodrow said.

“It is a legitimate maneuver. It is normally done at 5,000 feet or above,” Goodrow said. “The crowd loved it, but it was not a planned maneuver.”
“The pilot has been grounded, not as a punishment but so we can provide remedial training in tactics and procedures so this situation does not happen again,” Goodrow said. “He might have made other choices to rejoin the formation.”
I just wonder how much a$$ he has left at the moment - but I can see why the crowd loved it.
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But then Iceman told him he could be his wingman any time.
Written By: the wolf
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I think Iceman told him that his ego was cashing checks he couldn’t pay....
Written By: Joe
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Sword fight!

Is Top Gun about a gay naval aviator?
Written By: Arch
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Is Top Gun about a gay naval aviator?
No, absolutely NO! he’s been married or involved with many, many HAWT babes, Nicole, Penelope and now Katie! Don’t make me jump up on a couch, Dude and bring down the Fire of the Late, Great L Ron on your a$$!
Written By: Joe
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Don’t make me jump up on a couch, Dude and bring down the Fire of the Late, Great L Ron on your a$$!
Joe, I gotta tell you - that was coffee spew worthy!
Written By: SShiell
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You keep talking like that Joe, and you’re gonna get a visit from Chef.
Written By: looker
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While that was cool, I can see why he has no ass left. Don’t get to make up your own rules
Written By: Jason
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In my e-mail out to an old dear friend who sent the link:

"If I’m his commander, I’m kicking his little ass all the way home. And then Christ help him when we de-plane.

You know me: I’m not ’zactly your average shrinking violet. But I understand a bit about how aerobatics can go wrong. That wasn’t briefed (the potential for deadly confusion in the formation goes right off the top of the scale), and it wasn’t very well done, either. The people in that thread who think it was cool don’t know what they’re talking about. Their reference is something like the T’birds or Blues, and bloody ’Top Gun’. They don’t know what goes into a real aerobatic demonstration, and that ain’t it. Improvisational aerobatics are for combat and when no one in serious authority is watching. (Not to mention the thousands of innocents in your splash-zone if you goof.) That’s because they really are dangerous.

On hearing his rationale, my very first question would be, ’And... you were late to the form-up... why, exactly?’

Uh-huh. ’You’re out of the pool, son.’"


I’d like to see his FAR Sec. 91.303 waiver.

You can all bet your houses right now: he didn’t have one.
Written By: Billy Beck
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Yeah Billy, it was and Erb-4 singularly lacking in that quality.
Written By: Joe
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"’And... you were late to the form-up... why, exactly?"

That was my first question. And I am wondering why he still wasn’t in formation when they went out of sight. And a few other questions, including did his flight leader know he was going to do that?
Written By: timactual
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" and Erb-4 singularly lacking in that quality."
Hokay, here’s what a guy with 250 combat rides in the Southeast Asian Wargames (a hundred to Pack Six — F-105D) had to say about it:

"Had to watch it twice and wish it had a bit more lead-in to see where it started. Some points:

It’s a fly-over. That it would mean that it was officially requested and approved by 9th AF Hq—even though it was an ANG unit.

It would have been briefed as a four-ship, fingertip formation with minimum altitude specified over the crowd as well as configuration of the aircraft and max airspeed.

The comments section refers to an apparent newspaper coverage of the event and offers the late-to-the-party excuse. That’s bogus in my estimation. There would have been a provision for late launch and join-up since such fly-overs usually have a holding orbit nearby prior to the pass. Rejoin until a specified time or position would have been covered.

The approval would have been very specific regarding aerobatic maneuvers. What he does is not inherently dangerous and is something that experienced fighter types will often do on a rejoin coming off of a range mission, sort of a ’dance the sky on laughter silvered wings’ moment. Would, however, be neither approved nor good judgment at that time and place.

My suspicion would be that this cowboy would be subject to immediate grounding and a serious investigation. And, I can’t think of a valid excuse for it. Total lack of flight discipline. And, if the Green Mountain Boys aren’t very aggressive (and maybe even if they are), there should be several firings in the chain of command."

He goes on to describe a close friend of his, squadron commander, who got fired and early-retired after one of his troops ran an F-4 low pass on somebody’s ranch house.

This stuff isn’t to laugh at.
Written By: Billy Beck
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No Billy but Tom Cruise is.....
Written By: Joe
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No Billy but Tom Cruise is.....
Written By: Joe
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Their reference is something like the T’birds or Blues,
Maybe so, Billy, based on reputation alone... but then again, having seen both their shows many times over, (And a few Canadian shows over in Hamilton, Ontario as well) I can tell you I’ve never seen anything approaching that one. I can’t imagine the guy’s going to be flying anytime soon.

Ahd yeah, Cruise is laughable. I mean, how do you install a kiddie seat on an F-14, anyway?

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