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Carter manages to again insert himself where he doesn’t belong
Posted by: McQ on Sunday, April 13, 2008

Forcing himself back into the news again, the only guy recently, who makes George Bush look good:
Former President Jimmy Carter said he feels "quite at ease" about meeting Hamas militants over the objections of Washington because the Palestinian group is essential to a future peace with Israel.
Of course he feels "quite at ease" ... the man's an idiot.
"I feel quite at ease in doing this," Carter said. "I think there's no doubt in anyone's mind that, if Israel is ever going to find peace with justice concerning the relationship with their next-door neighbors, the Palestinians, that Hamas will have to be included in the process."

Although he said the meeting would not be a negotiation, he outlined distinct goals.

"I think that it's very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians, maybe to get them to agree to a cease-fire — things of this kind," he said.
Israel refuses to meet with Carter and Condoleezza Rice says:
"I find it hard to understand what is going to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is, in fact, the impediment to peace."
You have to wonder how Carter would have reacted if there'd been some whack-job former president running around the middle east without his sanction meeting with the terrorists who had kidnapped our embassy personnel in Iran.
 
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But Jimmy Carter... best ex-president... great man........ $3*gf(32~@-__1!$%

Overflow on Integer variable FauxOutrageIndex from operation: multiplication. Location: ReflexiveDefenseOfJimmyCarter subroutine. Program restart initiated.
 
Written By: Ott Scerb
URL: http://cluelessprof.maine.edu
Thing is, Carter has a history of illegal and perhaps treasonous acts.
 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitsblog.florack.us
Of course he is not doing this of his own choice. He is merely a humble representative of The Carter Center.
 
Written By: timactual
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McQ:

Why do you consistently degrade Bush re: his poll numbers?

Forcing himself back into the news again, the only guy recently, who makes George Bush look good:
Yeah, sure, Bush has made mistakes, as all presidents do, and he hasn’t been all that conservative in some domestic areas (as we were warned when he started blathering about "compassionate conservatism," but of course I failed to see all the REAL Libertarians/Conservatives rallying around Bush when he was rightly pushing for SS privatization a few years back.)

Jimmy Carter’s mistakes were and are that his intentions and results were anti-American. You wanna say the same for Bush?

At least 10-15% of his approval rating is the direct affect of so much nonsensical criticism and relentless mainstream media bias over the past 8 years— from reporters (especially TV news) never ever questioning those who casually state that Bush Lied or the claims that Katrina’s was Bush’s fault or that Bush didn’t do enough to prevent 911 but monitoring overseas calls is fascistic or that high gas prices are Bush’s fault or that Bush said Saddam killed Nelson Mandela or that Bush should be vilified for Harriet Myers while given no credit for Alito/Roberts or that when housing prices rise 300% in 6 years, but drop 30% in six months it’s the Great Depression or that ever 500th soldier death is a grim milestone but the anniversaries of Saddam’s capture and the fall of the Taliban are ignored or that blah blah blah.

For crying out loud, Saddam is dead, a new govt. is installed and Iraq is more democratic and in better shape (at least in terms of having a bright future) than most of Africa and much of S. America for that matter, and yet some many in the media treat Iraq as if it’s 0400 at Normandy and Patton is holed up in the latrine sobbing. Give me an effing break, dude.

Jimmy C. (although I was only a wee lad, so I’m going from other’s accounts here) had the benefit of a supportive press when he was in office and his poll numbers were still completely in the tank.

 
Written By: Come on, Please
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Why do you consistently degrade Bush re: his poll numbers?
Because his poll numbers suck?
 
Written By: McQ
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Carter’s got it right. And anyway, he doesn’t have to prove himself to anyone at this point. He’s got a Nobel Peace Prize, a lot of adoration, and he can go on the world stage and do whatever he wants and you certainly can whine about it, but if he thinks he belongs there, then it’s his call, not yours. Bottom line: we have to talk to Hamas, and to Iran. Obviously, they aren’t going to be defeated militarily. And if our government won’t do it, then I’m glad we have a former President of high prestige who will — and while the right wing in America will have a fit, most of the world gives Carter high fives. Go Jimmy!
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Erb shows an impressive ability to supress his gag reflex...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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It’s gotten almost impossible to tell the difference between Scott Erb and Ott Scerb.
 
Written By: Achillea
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"He’s got ... a lot of adoration,"

Yeah, we know.

" but if he thinks he belongs there, then it’s his call, not yours."

How dare we peasants express an opinion! Blasphemy! Lese majeste!

 
Written By: timactual
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"Go Jimmy!"

That’s what the electorate said in 1980. Unfortunately, he keeps coming back.
 
Written By: timactual
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How dare we peasants express an opinion!
Well, I was just expressing a contrary opinion.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
There are many Israelis, especially in the security services who think they will have to negotiate with Hamas at some time in the future if not earlier than later. That said, it does not mean that Jimmy Carter visiting them is helpful at all. It probably gives Hamas a morale boost and perhaps even encourages their belligerence.
 
Written By: Harun
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That said, it does not mean that Jimmy Carter visiting them is helpful at all. It probably gives Hamas a morale boost and perhaps even encourages their belligerence.
I doubt it. Things like ’morale boost’ or ’encouraging belligerence’ are far too often attributed to reactions to what is said or done in the West. More likely, morale and levels of belligerence are way outside the influence of Carter, and more affected by, say, Israeli incursions into Gaza. Also, Carter has connections. Israel may snub him publicly (they probably need to), but there could very well be exchanges being made behind the scenes. I think people often under-estimate how much real communication goes on between parties who say "we will not talk to them." The US is in constant communication with the Iranians, for instance, but through go-betweens.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Oh, here’s a link to back up my last statement. This is just an example.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Boris discovers sliced bread and backchannel negotiations.

What’s next? The safety razor?
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
Erb shows an impressive ability to supress his gag reflex...
I’ve never seen a carrion bird gag.
Mmm.

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitsblog.florack.us
It’s gotten almost impossible to tell the difference between Scott Erb and Ott Scerb.
I see two ways to tell the difference. First, Scerb is much more honest, and a lot funnier.

Second, teh Scerb posting robot program seems to have more bugs that the Erb program. We occasionally see error messages like the one above. The only way you can tell that the Erb program is really a computer is because it’s so repetitive and unimaginative.
 
Written By: Grocky
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Carter has gotten it so right.
The Shin Bet security service, which helps protect visiting dignitaries and is overseen by Olmert’s office, declined to meet the head of Carter’s Secret Service security detail or provide his team with assistance as is customary during such visits.
For once I have to applaud the Olmert government for their actions. If Carter insists upon meeting with a terrorist organization against our own State Department’s recommendations, then he should not be able to force an Israeli agency to put their people at risk. He wants to play God, then he does so at his own risk.
 
Written By: SShiell
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Yep, Carter has really chosen some really credible people to back. The following from LGF:

Broadcast on official Hamas television (Al Aqsa TV) April 11, 2008, Hamas member of Parliament Yunis Al-Astal explains that the destruction of the Jews is just a precursor to Islam’s conquest of the entire world.
Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesized by our Prophet Muhammad. Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam – this capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe.
Boy Howdy - Now these people really deserve their own country.

/snark
 
Written By: SShiell
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The only serious danger to anyone in that area are Islamic/Palestinian extremists like Hamas. Carter is there to meet with these exremists. I rather doubt that there is much threat to him from that quarter. I think Carter just wants some free limo service and an entourage. Just like old times.
 
Written By: timactual
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