they could, ya know, just send ’em. It’s not like they ASK our servicemen ’how do you feel about going to Iraq?’ before they’re sent.
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Sure they can. And if the SD people don’t like it, they can find something else to do. In the meantime I’d appreciate it if they’d quit complaining about something they signed up to do. |
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The thing is, they can quit and probably make more money. So if you have a family, and are worried about your safety, it’s rational to refuse to go to Iraq — especially if you think the policy there is flawed, and many if not most do — and take care of their family and stay safe. |
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Scott Erb
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especially if you think the policy there is flawed, and many if not most do How do you know this? Done a survey? Invited them round for tea? Told to you by the cousin of a friend’s friend?
More of your ’many’, ’most’ appeals to authority to give your opinions weight (you think).
Not fact, speculative opinion.
You could state you think they don’t want to risk their lives, fine, but you have no idea what they actually think of the policies. |
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How do you know this? Done a survey? A mix of reading about internal debates in some of the books that are published, plus my own contacts in DC. I believe that statement accurate, and so I’ll state it. You don’t have to believe me, but the point that if someone thinks the war is flawed, they are rational to quit the State Department and get a lucrative private sector job if forced to go to Iraq still makes sense. |
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Scott Erb
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If I apply to the State Department with a piece of paper that says "I’m willing to work in Iraq", you think they’d hire me? |
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Scott Jacobs
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They could probably make more money, but they wouldn’t be working in Rome and enjoying relaxing work hours with generous housing allowances and vacation time. |
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Harun
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They can go or they can quit.
I’ve got a brother in the Guard, over 50, a widower with 3 young children who is in Afghanistan because it’s his job. They didn’t ask if it was convenient.
Unless I’m mistaken, the State Department is supposed to represent US interests abroad. Not represent what it thinks are US interests, unless they happen to disagree with them, or it’s inconvenient, or they just don’t happen to like whomever is president. It’s a safe bet to say none of them was hired to make policy, or to work if they happened to agree with it.
Besides, like Erb says, they can always quit and make more money and free up a job for someone who wants to do it. I don’t see any downside. |
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MarkD
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Besides, like Erb says, they can always quit and make more money and free up a job for someone who wants to do it. I don’t see any downside. The downside is they would have to work for a living on the outside. |
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SShiell
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I believe that statement accurate, and so I’ll state it. Many and Most. Indeed |
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looker
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I think Erb is right: most of the boobs in the state department probably agree with Erb and his ilk, and they are not going to accept hardship for W’s policies. In fact, no doubt quite a few are hoping for American defeat. |
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Don
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Incidently, in the wars with the barbary pirates, some state department type boob messed things up: he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, ’cause he wanted to achieve American goals via talk and bribes rather than talk and cannons.
The ideas of Erb have been bankrupt for a very long time—proven so. |
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Don
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The ideas of Erb have been bankrupt for a very long time—proven so. Ironic statement, given that the Iraq war has gone so different than the ideas of the neo-conservatives, and the US is facing major problems because of recent policies (both Clinton’s and Bush’s, to be sure). I think there are some bankrupt ideas out there, but Don, I think you’re the one sticking to a number of them. |
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Written By:
Scott Erb
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http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
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