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SCOTUS upholds IN voter ID law
Posted by: McQ on Monday, April 28, 2008

Nancy Pelosi's statement concerning the SCOTUS decision which upholds laws requiring picture identification for voters:
“The Supreme Court’s decision is disappointing. The Court’s decision today places obstacles to the fundamental rights of American citizens—especially the poor, the elderly, and individuals with disabilities—to participate in the electoral process. Having American citizens pay for underlying documents needed for an identification card and travel to distant motor vehicle locations for processing hinders—and diminishes—their right to vote.

“The right to vote is a foundation of our democracy. American citizens who wish to vote must be able to do so.”
Free driver's licenses for all!

Whether you like having to show a picture ID prior to vote or not, this myth that they're so difficult and expensive to get is just absurd. While the poor may not find themselves in banks that often most elderly and the disabled know that if they want to do anything in a bank, they'd better have ID with a picture. Same with travel. Same with any number of routine things we do daily in this country where identity theft is rampant and it only makes sense to be able to prove your identity.

In GA, you can get a voter ID free and not go anywhere near a "distant motor vehicle location". You go to your county's voter registration office and they take care of the problem.

Seems to me a Speaker of the House would be concerned with the integrity of the voting system and want to ensure that only those entitled to exercise the "right" to vote are allowed to vote.

Of course, if getting a photo ID is such a burden, as Ms. Pelosi suggests there's the old "absentee voter" dodge where you don't have to provide any ID in order to vote.

There's a whole bunch of smoke being blown by the Speaker on this one. It really has nothing to do with the elderly, disabled and poor being disenfranchised, does it? More likely it has to do with those who have no right to vote exercising that 'right' - for the proper party, of course.

Said Justice Stevens:
There is little history in Indiana of either in-person voter fraud — of the sort the law was designed to thwart — or voters being inconvenienced by the law's requirements. For the overwhelming majority of voters, an Indiana driver license serves as the identification.

"We cannot conclude that the statute imposes 'excessively burdensome requirements' on any class of voters," Stevens said.

Stevens' opinion suggests that the outcome could be different in a state where voters could provide evidence that their rights had been impaired.
Justice Souter dissented:
But in dissent, Souter said Indiana's voter ID law "threatens to impose nontrivial burdens on the voting rights of tens of thousands of the state's citizens."
You know, 50 years ago, I might have bought into this line of reasoning (for more than just the "burden" argument). Maybe I just travel in different circles, but these days I can't think of anyone who doesn't have some form of acceptable picture identification and hasn't had it for years. I'd love to see something factual to back up Souter's assertion (and that includes, if there are significant numbers of potential voters without acceptable ID, why getting one would be such a "nontrivial burden").
Scalia, favoring a broader ruling in defense of voter ID laws, said, "The universally applicable requirements of Indiana's voter-identification law are eminently reasonable. The burden of acquiring, possessing and showing a free photo identification is simply not severe, because it does not 'even represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting.'"
See the GA law. If you are willing to take on the burden of getting up and traveling to your polling place on election day, why is that less of a burden than making a one-time trip down to the voter registration office to get an ID prior to that?

For those for whom going to the polling place is a burden - vote absentee - no ID required. Problem solved.
 
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If traveling to a distant BMV is burdensome, then isn’t traveling to a distant polling place, just as burdensome...

Good argument, but not mine...
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://asecondhandconjecture.com
BTW Indiana has a free ID as well, enacted specifically to deal with this issue.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://asecondhandconjecture.com
See the GA law. If you are willing to take on the burden of getting up and traveling to your polling place on election day, why is that less of a burden than making a one-time trip down to the voter registration office to get an ID prior to that?
BINGO!
Nuff said right there.
 
Written By: looker
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My wife is a bank teller.

You can’t open an account without picture ID.

You can’t withdraw cash from your own account without picture ID.

You can’t cash a check drawn on their bank without picture ID, to show you are the payee.

Although she does relate that a large number of people come through the drive-through, attempting to cash checks, who claim they have no Driver’s License. She has wondered if she could set up a sting with the local police force.
 
Written By: Loren
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Look. I may want to vote two or three times. Some people aren’t going to vote, so I’ll just vote in their place. This makes that hard to do. Not fair.
 
Written By: Is
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We had our IDs checked in the Michigan Primary.

The person who checked my ID only did it after her co-worker stopped what he was doing ’reminded’ her and glared at her until she finished.

Hopefully this doesn’t become the next illegal immigration where laws are passed and go largely unenforced. Making future enforcement actually more difficult.
 
Written By: jpm100
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You can’t open an account without picture ID.

You can’t withdraw cash from your own account without picture ID.

You can’t cash a check drawn on their bank without picture ID, to show you are the payee.
I guess it shows you how important voting is considered.
 
Written By: capt joe
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Indiana also provides free non-license photo IDs that are valid at the polls. I am with you 100% that "too expensive" is a preposterous argument.

Having said that, I am beginning to have concerns about the related issue of religious objectors. In Indiana, they can get no-photo driver licenses but they are not accepted at the polls.

I found this post quite persuasive.
 
Written By: KipEsquire
URL: http://www.kipesquire.com
Moreover, the states already issue free voter ID cards. There’s no reason that these can’t be used as sufficient ID, and I believe most places allow that. If the state laws specifically require a picture ID, then voter ID cards should be upgraded to comply. Easy as pie — easier, actually.

 
Written By: Jeff Medcalf
URL: http://www.caerdroia.org/blog
(and that includes, if there are significant numbers of potential voters without acceptable ID, why getting one would be such a "nontrivial burden")
Potential voters? Sure. Illegals would have a HECK of a time getting that valid ID so they could illegally vote for...

Oh, wait... I see what you did there...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I know one group that has photo ID’s and still had difficulty voting. That is the American serviceman and woman.
 
Written By: tom scott
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Although this bill fails to address absentee voting fraud, it will put a kink in Democrat election stealing in Indiana. Now we need to take care of the rest of the country. As for the burden it places on voters, remember the little old lady who was presented by the Indiana law’s opponents as one of those harmed by the ID requirement? Turns out she was registered to vote in Florida and had attested under oath in that registration that she was a resident of Florida. Nonetheless, she went ahead and voted in three elections in Indiana after she attested under penalty of perjury to the county officials in Florida that she was a Florida resident.

Democrats are full of it. They stole the state of Washington’s most recent gubenatorial election, they stole the 2004 Presidential election in Wisconsin, Orange County California Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez stole the election from Bob Dornan in 1996 etc., etc., etc.
 
Written By: jt007
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these days I can’t think of anyone who doesn’t have some form of acceptable picture identification
You need a picture ID to get food stamps in most places .. so .. this is a burden ?
 
Written By: Neo
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Only to those who shouldn’t be voting...

Which is why Illinois will never see a similar law (the dead would have a fairly rough go of getting a photo ID)...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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