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The "flexible" Left
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, May 07, 2008

James Kirchik - game, set and match:
Open the pages of a liberal magazine or peruse the liberal blogosphere, and you’re bound to come across denunciations of the religious right, if not religion itself. The “reality-based community,” as self-satisfied liberal bloggers call themselves, was a term created in direct response to the “faith-based community,” what the Bush administration called recipients of money from its Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. Given the religious right’s use of “faith” to justify hoaxes such as “intelligent design” and the ruinous attempt to convert homosexuals into heterosexuals, the left had good reason to criticize, and sometimes mock, the absurdities that are the inevitable result of religion mixing with politics.

Yet the left, with its healthy skepticism toward religion, has shown itself to be cynically flexible over the past few weeks in response to the utter insanities emitted from the big mouth of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, mentor and friend of 20 years. Suddenly, some liberals have discovered a newfound love for extremists who hide behind the cloth to justify their radical views.
And of course, to observers of this phenomenon, this isn't the first time the left has been "flexible".

Bob Packwood? Run him out of town said the feminists.

The First Groper?

The sound of crickets chirping - still.

[From a parking lot in Brunswick GA with time in between appointments]
 
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James Kirchik - game, set and match:
Or not.
 
Written By: KipEsquire
URL: http://www.kipesquire.com
I don’t think the left has been, your examples notwithstanding, so much in Wright’s court as they are dismissive of any connection of Wright to Obama. Obama’s rather forced "disowning" of Wright after he was basically backed into a corner was met with a shrug and a willingness to move on. Imagine if McCain had, say, Jerry Falwell as his pastor, mentor and spiritual advisor for two-plus decades. The same folks would be in apoplectic fits. Therein lies their inconsistency.
 
Written By: the wolf
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Given the religious right’s use of "faith" to justify hoaxes such as "intelligent design"
I’m sorry, but this one heckuva boneheaded statement. I must have been out sick the day when it was proven that God doesn’t exist. ID is based on the belief that God’s hand guides, not controls, the development of the universe.

Actually, the statement above is more of a smear than just being boneheaded.
Yet the left, with its healthy skepticism toward religion,
Best laugh I’ve had all day. And in other news, Shiites and Sunnis continue to display a healthy skepticism toward one another. Is this guy for real? The left reflexively hates religion in the same way that vampires hate sunlight.

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Written By: Come on, Please
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I guess this explains this.
 
Written By: Neo
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Don’t forget the left’s willingness to be flexible over the religious right of Islam. To quote the Iranian exile blogger Azarmehr:
"We should enlighten and mobilize the left, because the Islamic Republic is not the “progressive” champion of the poor as some of the leftists in the West imagine. This is the same mistake that the Iranian left made and they paid a very heavy price for their mistake. The left in Iran were amongst the first victims of the religious tyranny that massacred them. The Ayatollahs hate no one more than the atheist socialists."
 
Written By: Jimmy the Dhimmi
URL: www.warning1938alert.ytmnd.com
Or the left’s willingness to give up Precious Civil Liberties all in the name of Free Health Care.
 
Written By: Come on, Please
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Suddenly, some liberals have discovered a newfound love for extremists who hide behind the cloth to justify their radical views.
It isn’t "newfound." While mocking Christian fundamentalists, the Left has been showing the love to certain more fashionable types of religious extremists for a while now.
 
Written By: Aldo
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Don’t forget the left’s willingness to be flexible over the religious right of Islam.
Yep.
 
Written By: Don
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From the Sam Harris piece, this is one of the most awesome lines ever:
The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we will kill you.
 
Written By: Jeff
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Open the pages of a liberal magazine or peruse the liberal blogosphere, and you’re bound to come across denunciations of the religious right, if not religion itself.
Yes, the religious right is often denounced. But religiion itself, no. Notice how the author cites no evidence.
The "reality-based community," as self-satisfied liberal bloggers call themselves, was a term created in direct response to the "faith-based community," what the Bush administration called recipients of money from its Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.
Bullsh*t. The term was coined and first used by a member of the Bush administration. It had nothing to do with religion, or questions of faith.

From the NYT Magazine, 10/17/04, in a piece by Ron Suskind, quoting a Bush aide:
The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That’s not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
This is the origin of the term. Kirchik is a tool. And a liar.

Of course, McQ uncritically quotes a bunch of horsesh*t. What is it with you wingnuts?
[From a parking lot in Brunswick GA with time in between appointments]
Obviously. Facts simply don’t matter to you, do they McQ? You are descending to Henke-like levels of hackery and deliberate ignorance of facts.
 
Written By: mkultra
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Bob Packwood? Run him out of town said the feminists.
McQ invoking Packwood as a victim?

Is there no floor for you, McQ?
 
Written By: mkultra
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The reality based community, if it ever existed, exists no longer.
 
Written By: Neo
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McQ invoking Packwood as a victim?
So, you don’t understand how comparisons work, MK? Or is it that you just can’t argue your way out of what the comparison implies?


 
Written By: Bithead
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Modern "liberalism" is about as faith-based as you can get. Obviously someone who believes that the State—an insitution with a horde of armed enforcers and which claims not only the right to take as much of your money as it decides "fair," but that it also has the right to kill you—is his best buddy and can be trusted to run both the economy and uur health care isn’t exactly "reality-based."
 
Written By: Bilwick
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Is there no floor for you, McQ?
At least one floor up from wherever you dwell.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.QandO.net
From MK’s quote, the aide’s description is actually a pretty good description of the Theory of Reflexivity, postulated by none other than George Soros.

Soros says, "Applied to events which have thinking participants, it provides a distorted picture of reality. The key feature of these events is that the participants’ thinking affects the situation to which it refers. . . . If the study of events is confined to the study of facts, an important element, namely, the participants’ thinking, is left out of account."
 
Written By: Tom
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Given the religious right’s use of “faith” to justify hoaxes such as “intelligent design”
Ah, the continuing misuse of scare quotes. Writers don’t seem to understand that they can’t put scare quotes around a phrase merely because they find the thing described by phrase dubious. Intelligent Design Theory, whatever its status, actually does exist. Even if one thinks that IDT is no better than astrology and the flat-earth theory, when is the last time somebody put scare quotes around the word "astrology" or "flat-earth theory"?
 
Written By: Bill Ramey
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