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Democrats for Voter Identification
Posted by: Jon Henke on Thursday, May 15, 2008

Funny, the Progressives don't seem so worked up when Barack Obama works his religion on the campaign trail. Race 4 2008 has an interesting Obama pamphlet being used in Kentucky. But what I find most amusing isn't just the blatant religious stuff (NOTE: some enterprising blogger could probably have fun finding Obama-supporting progressives who went nuts over Huckabee's cross or other Republican use of religious iconography).

No, what I find amusing is this...



This, from the Party that opposes voter identification.
 
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You need photo ID to get food stamps.
 
Written By: Neo
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Something tells me "acquainted with the precinct officer" is a loophole large enough to drive a truck [full of indigents with a new $50 bill in their pockets] through.

My experience is that the precinct worker in Michigan wasn’t going to check my ID until her co-worker reminded her and watched he until she actually did it.

I wonder which precincts will be the most loose with this loophole?
 
Written By: jpm100
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Funny, the Progressives don’t seem so worked up when Barack Obama works his religion on the campaign trail.


Funny, I don’t recall Obama being a Muslim.
He’s a Muslim, and that has a lot to do with it.
I thought we had determined he was a racist Christian.

I guess because he is another race. I’m sort of scared of the other race because we have so much conflict with them.
Yeah, I can’t keep track. I guess Obama can’t either.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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What did you expect the Democratic Party to do?
Make signage that says, "As a protest against Voter ID, please make sure you do not bring any ID so you will be turned away and won’t be able to vote?"
 
Written By: kishnevi
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I went to my cardiologist’s office yesterday. I have been seeing him since 1985. He and his colleagues have done four or five angioplasties, two defibrillator implants, and countless angiograms on me since then, and my insurance carriers have paid them in excess of $200k.

When I signed in, the clerk asked me for "a picture ID" and insurance cards. I pointed out to her that I had been a patient there for over 20 years, and if they didn’t know me by now, perhaps I should be looking for another cardiology service. The clerk informed me that they had to scan my id "for my protection", and that the doctor couldn’t see me unless I gave it to her.

Since my wife was with me, I declined to make a scene, and gave her my license.

Cheeeece. And people are complaining about picture ID to register to vote.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
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Pogue,

Where do your quotes come from? I am not seeing them in the post or the comments.

 
Written By: Harun
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I suspect Pogue is conflating two distinct issues in an attempt to deflect attention from the issue Jon raises. Then again, he could be just pointing out just how irrational the media is when voters don’t vote the way they, the media would like.

It would be far too difficult for the media to look into the Marxist-based Black Liberation Theology of Sen. Obama’s church and self-proclaimed spiritual advisor. Far be it for the media to look into Sen. Obama’s affiliations to defendant Rezko, or unrepentant domestic terrorists Ayers and Dorhn. Or to look into why Sen Obama’s lofty rhetoric is refuted by his wafer thin legislative record, or even that that rhetoric shows a stunning lack of understand of basic issues.

No, the media refuses to accept that a good part of America might be less than enthused by these judgments and positions - they are just stupid racists!
 
Written By: bains
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Bains - Pogue also forgets that those are fellow Liberals he’s talking about...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Isn’t the flier just echoing the state regulations? A GOTV tool is kind of useless if it doesn’t prep the voter, no?
 
Written By: Oliver Willis
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Here are the current state-by-state laws for identification requirements.

For Kentucky:
117.227 Confirmation of voter’s identity.
Election officers shall confirm the identity of each voter by personal acquaintance or by a
document, such as a motor vehicle operator’s license, Social Security card, or credit card.
The election officer confirming the identity shall sign the precinct voter roster and list the
method of identification.
Effective: July 15, 2002
 
Written By: JWG
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Harun, you have to watch the video for those quotes. It’s pretty funny.

It’s not a deflection, bains. It seems obvious that the Obama campaign would feel it necessary to emphasize Obama’s religious identity considering, as the polls suggest, that there are many out there still buying the line that Obama is a Muslim. Like the lady in the video.

And I don’t know how Scott Jacobs determines that these people I quote are "fellow" liberals.

 
Written By: PogueMahone
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You know Pogue, that Daily Show video is precisely what I was referring to. The media find a couple of people who agree to go on camera, saying just the kinds of things that fit their pre-concluded narrative, and back it up with a gaggle of talking heads saying exactly what they believe. A circle-jerk of group-think, devoid of any critical thought. Virtually no one within the herd is looking at the staggering support Obama receives from the black community. If a 65-25 split amongst white voters is a clear sign of ignorant racism, why isn’t the 90-10 split amongst blacks?

The irony of using Jon Stewart’s Daily Show to prove just how ignorant Americans are of real issues and basic facts, however, is quite rich.
 
Written By: bains
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It was rich. It was funny as hell.
And you are the one deflecting.
The comedy show that you accuse of being "devoid of any critical thought", simply had some choice quotes that I found funny. Nobody needs to use Jon Stewart to suggest that some people out there think he is a Muslim.
For that, how does the WSJ strike you:
Sen. Obama’s religious background and patriotism have become a frequent issue in the long fight for the Democratic presidential nomination. The front-runner has had to defend his show of patriotism and dismiss rumors falsely claiming that he is a Muslim.

Critics have pounced on the candidate’s past: The senator’s father was an unobservant Muslim from Kenya and, for a brief period of his childhood, the senator lived in Indonesia, a Muslim country.

In a Pew Research Center poll conducted in March, 10% of registered voters said they believe Sen. Obama is Muslim, 53% correctly identified him as Christian and about a third of respondents said they didn’t know what his religious beliefs were.
If you wanna get with your buddies and have your own circle jerk about how the liberal MSM is in the tank for Obama, go right ahead. But don’t pretend that there aren’t people out there that think Obama is a Muslim.
It’s obvious to me that the Obama campaign deems it necessary to correct the inaccurate beliefs.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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It seems "Obama is a Muslim" is Obama’s version of the Clintonites’ "Clinton got a blowjob". A cheesy deflection tool for the left.

And remember kids, Vote for Obama or You’re a Racist.

And BTW Pogue, how do you interpret 90/10? Or are you psychologically impaired from even attempting to address it.
 
Written By: jpm100
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In no particular order...

The flag-pin (patriotism) issue is ridiculous but wholly of Obama’s creation. He uses it as a prop. In other words, Barack is a member of the pandering political class that he claims not to be a member of. I suspect many more voters view it this way than how the media (WSJ in this case) frames it as a question of patriotism.

I think far more people are uncomfortable with Obama’s Christian background that think he is Muslim. That ratio would further change if the media did its job and investigated the Black Liberation Theology from whence he came.

The Daily Show is a comedy show, and as such has absolutely no obligation to truth. Pretending to be a news show, or more accurately, mocking many news shows presents a unique problem in that a good portion of its audience takes the views expressed as unassailable fact. It is, in fact, creating the ignorance it mocks.

The Pew poll that shows 10% believe Obama to be Muslim is not only not surprising, but statistically insignificant. There are polls that show 30% believe that the US was behind the 9-11 attacks, or that show 50% can’t identify the VPresident, or that show 40% can’t locate the 50 states, the rational conclusion is that there are a portion of US citizens that are, in fact, ignorant. But it is an ignorance across the board, not as the media likes to portrait, issue specific.

As for the media being in the tank for Obama, well it is fairly evident that the majority are. Not only have several members admitted as much, but when analysis of favorable/unfavorable "news" stories shows Obama at 85%, Clinton at 65% and McCain at 45% it is hard to come to any other conclusion.

Finally, it is not the Daily Show I accuse of lacking critical thought, it is a good part of the media. The Daily Show is comedy, and at times it can be quite funny.
 
Written By: bains
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And BTW Pogue, how do you interpret 90/10? Or are you psychologically impaired from even attempting to address it.
Well since you asked so nicely…

I would image most of them supporting Obama because he is black. Some are supporting him because he is a Democrat. And some are supporting him because he is a black Democrat.

But I don’t view it as such a bad thing. It doesn’t worry me.
It’s no surprise that a group of people who have been treated so poorly throughout American history should want to take pride and throw their support behind one of their own.
It reminds me of JFK and Catholics in this country. Remember, JFK got 8/10 of the Catholic vote.
The election of John E Kennedy was truly an extraordinary and liberating event for U.S. Catholics (Dolan 1992, 422). As Crews (1993) notes, "An invisible barrier had been shattered. Across the nation, Catholics sensed that they had finally achieved unquestioned first-class status as loyal citizens" (p. 139). After enduring more than 170 years of political anti-Catholicism in various forms and degrees, (2) eight in ten Catholic voters supported Kennedy at the ballot box in 1960. At the time, Converse et al. (1961) noted "the vote polarized along religious lines in a degree which we have not seen in the course of previous sample survey studies" (p. 273). Slightly more than 118,000 votes separated Kennedy from Nixon nationally and it would have been a daunting challenge for him to win with anything less than 80 percent of the Catholic vote. Converse et al. (1961) estimate that Kennedy’s vote among Catholics was 17 percentage points higher than what an average non-Catholic candidate could have expected (p. 275).
And just like Catholics in this country, I envision a time when black Americans will cease to be a voting “bloc”. And that their positions will be as varied as anyone else’s. I believe that if Obama is elected president, the shattering of identity voting among black Americans will accelerate. It’s just a thought.

I also find an eerie similarity in how many people at the time were fearful of a Catholic JFK giving his allegiance to Rome rather than to America, and how many of you today are fearful that Obama will owe his allegiance to Wright and/or black liberation theology.

I believe that would make you fools.


And there you go, jpm… Since you asked so nicely.

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Democrats have to show their identification to select their own candidate in their own Party’s primary? Can’t they select a Party candidate in a way that doesn’t require voters to produce identification?
 
Written By: Jon Henke
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I also find an eerie similarity in how many people at the time were fearful of a Catholic JFK giving his allegiance to Rome rather than to America, and how many of you today are fearful that Obama will owe his allegiance to Wright and/or black liberation theology.
A closer analogy would be Mitt Romney’s Mormon church to JFK’s Catholic church. Liberation theology is Marxism cloaked in a thin veneer of religion. As such, a better comparison would be Lyndon LaRouche, or even Ron Paul.

Admittedly I have seen no real evidence of BLT in Sen. Obama, but there are indications of BLT in Michelle Obama’s writings and speeches. In and of itself, not a disqualifer. What bothers me is just how incurious the media is regarding if and how much, BLT as taught by Rev. Wright may have influenced the Senator. Instead, we get warmth gushing up Matthews leg, or Roberts declaring CNN Wright-free.
 
Written By: bains
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and how many of you today are fearful that Obama will owe his allegiance to Wright and/or black liberation theology.

I believe that would make you fools.


And there you go, jpm… Since you asked so nicely.

Cheers.
And geez what a nice response. Except I missed the decree from the Pope that AIDS was invented by man for a nefarious purpose or his damning of America. And since I and many others have quite legitimate concerns over those two positions express in the BLT church Obama attended your response isn’t really that nice either now, is it? Sorry if I choose to be plain and direct unlike yourself.
I would image most of them supporting Obama because he is black. Some are supporting him because he is a Democrat. And some are supporting him because he is a black Democrat.
Other than pretty much stating the obvious, you never really gave us the level of insight into the motivations of Blacks as you do Whites.

Let’s flip some names there for fun and see how that works for Hillary & Whites:
I would image most of them supporting Hillary because she is white. Some are supporting her because she is a Democrat. And some are supporting her because she is a white Democrat.
Well maybe have a good guess why you believe Blacks voted for Obama and not Hillary.
 
Written By: jpm100
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I also find an eerie similarity in how many people at the time were fearful of a Catholic JFK giving his allegiance to Rome rather than to America, and how many of you today are fearful that Obama will owe his allegiance to Wright and/or black liberation theology.

I believe that would make you fools.
While we’re being all equal opportunity minded and all, let’s not leave out the Dems on the Senate Judiciary Committee questioning William Pryor’s fitness for the bench because he is a Catholic. That was MUCH more recent than JFK’s election.

Wouldn’t want to discriminate against fools just because of their political persuasion.
 
Written By: Terry
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Other than pretty much stating the obvious, you never really gave us the level of insight into the motivations of Blacks as you do Whites.
Why don’t you answer your own question. That’s obvious what you are waiting for. I don’t know what you’re looking for, so why don’t you just tell me.
Let’s flip some names there for fun and see how that works for Hillary & Whites:
Whatever floats your boat....
It’s no surprise that a group of people (whites) who have been treated so poorly throughout American history should want to take pride and throw their support behind one of their own.

That doesn’t really work now does it.
Sorry man, I’m just not any good at your hypothetical games.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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