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Rumor has it ....
Posted by: McQ on Friday, May 16, 2008

Matt Lewis at Townhall says:
Rumor has it that there is video of Michelle Obama "railing against 'whitey' at Jeremiah Wright's church."

If this is true, it could be lethal. It's one thing to distance yourself from your pastor, but quite another thing to distance yourself from your spouse.

Might Rev. Wright be the one leaking the video?

Be warned: Again — this might be just be a rumor. Or it might be big — if it's true. Stay tuned ...
Got that? Rumor, rumor, rumor.

And from whence does it come. Well from Hillary Clinton supporter and somewhat veracity-challenged Larry Johnson, at "No Quarter", who, quite naturally, implies it is the Republicans (but seems quite happy about the possible result none-the-less) playing this card:
I now have it from two three four sources (three who are close to senior Republicans) that there is video dynamite–Michelle Obama railing against “whitey” at Jeremiah Wright’s church. Republicans may have a lousy record when it comes to the economy and the management of the war in Iraq, but they are hell on wheels when it comes to opposition research. Someone took the chance and started reviewing the recordings from services at Jeremiah Wright’s United Church of Christ. Holy smoke!! I am told there is a clip that is being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time. The last thing Barack and Michelle need is a new clip that raises further questions about her judgment and temperament.
The last thing my foot. Johnson isn't at all worried about "further questions" being raised - in fact he'd love it. Another "No Quarter" author chimes in:
THIS IS THE STORY. And it is thanks to LARRY JOHNSON that we have a good shot at wresting control from the “happy world” hacks at the DNC and get people with COMMON SENSE to hire the best woman for the job of president.
One of the reasons I put this up is I would have difficulty believing that if such a tape existed, the Clinton campaign wouldn't know about it. If they do, it might explain why Hillary hangs on. It would certainly qualify as a "bombshell" as outlined in Jon's point 2 below.

So, if true, who has it and who will use it? It's a question of timing. If the tape exists and it shows up prior to the Dem convention most would think it was deployed by the Clinton campaign (with plausible deniability, of course). Or perhaps as as a dirty trick by the GOP to sink Obama and blame it on Clinton, permanently fracturing the Dem party?

If it comes after Obama is nominated, most will think the GOP deployed it. Or maybe the Clinton campaign sinking the Obama campaign, blaming the GOP for the dirty politics and setting herself up as the favorite for 2012?

Or it could all be so much idle gossip.

Heh - oh, the wrench something like this would throw in the works, which is exactly why it is most likely not true. I can't imagine something like this surviving 15 months on the campaign trail without surfacing until now.

But it will certainly give us something to talk about over the weekend as we mull over the possibilities and outcomes such a rumored bombshell (and its timing) would bring.

Have a good one.
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Yes, it’s a rumor...

It could very well turn out to be completely untrue...

But it’s a rumor that I, frankly, wouldn’t be surprised to learn is a fact. It seems like something Mrs Bitterness might do...
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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"Crazy Larry" is getting lots of traffic on this story.
Written By: Neo
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If it’s no more than a rumor, at the very least it’s a "give the superdelegates pause" sort of rumor. A staunch the bleeding rumor.

But it’s also a "that’s not hard to believe" rumor, to all but those who are still in the Obama trance.

Caught up in one of the frequently frenzied moments at Trinity services one Sunday, Michelle could easily have shortened a routine attack on "Europeans" or "rich white people" to "whitey." Perhaps that would be her explanation: "I meant to say ’rich white people’ were to blame for militarism, but because the service had become very celebratory, I shortened that to ’whitey’. I apologize if that has offended anyone who happens to be white."

And if it’s true that she did denouce "whitey," the exits won’t be near enough or wide enough for the remaining moderates and Reagan Democrats, and even for all those college-educated Democrats who didn’t really pay attention to the memo from the university diversity trainers that "whitey" is to blame, for everything.

Barack would explain that "we don’t condemn white people, uh, typical, uh, white people, who talk about Whitey Ford or Whitey, uh, Herzog, two great whiteys from the, uh, world of baseball; so Michelle did nothing that Yankee and Kansas City Royals fans did not do, uh, for years, and we’re not supposed to have, uh, double standards in this country: that’s the America that I, uh, want to be president of."

It’s in those, uh, magic pauses, that Obama straightens out the brain waves of, uh, his followers, who might, uh, be given pause.
Written By: Martin McPhillips
I’ll believe it when I see it. Until then, yes it is indeed true that there is a rumor...
Written By: CR
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I’ll believe it when I see it.
I’m ready to entertain a new category for this: pre-believe.

See, if someone had told me that there were videos, available from Trinity church itself, that showed the pastor engaging in insane rants against white people and America, I wouldn’t have believed it.

So that entitles me now to pre-believe this rumor, because I’m fresh out of the benefit of the doubt for the Obamas.
Written By: Martin McPhillips
Has Michelle ever given a speech/homily/rant at Trinity UCC ?

Do congregants usually give "witness" like this ?

Would it have been taped ?
Written By: Neo
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Just how would it go down if the Rev. Wright released the tape ?
Written By: Neo
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You mean besides me wetting myself from laughing too hard?
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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This McClatchy article Where did the Web rumors about Obama come from? covers an interview with a retired clandestine CIA officer.
In late 2006, convinced that an Obama presidency would be disastrous for America, he decided to start an anti-Obama operation. He combed the public record on Obama. He used a couple of allies and informants — half-jokingly dubbing his group "The Crusaders" — to learn about Obama’s background, especially his Africa connection and how he came to be the editor of the Harvard Law Review.

He assembled a dossier on Obama, including allegations that Obama attended a madrassa, or Islamic religious school, in his youth in Indonesia.

Then the retired spook tried to get Israeli intelligence officials interested in his Obama dossier. They weren’t, to his chagrin. He also shopped it to some foreign reporters. Again, no luck.


The retired CIA officer, who said that he and his fellow Crusaders have abandoned their effort, said he wasn’t the source of the Insight story.
Methinks if this tape really existed, it would have surfaced by now. I hardly recognize Johnson, had a lot of respect for him until a few months ago.
Written By: Ginny in CO
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Methinks if this tape really existed, it would have surfaced by now.
Yeah, that’s my biggest problem with all of this - I can’t imagine, if this exists, that it has remained hidden all of this time.

That said, it is an interesting situation about which to speculate - and that’s all it is too - speculation.
Written By: McQ
Has Michelle ever given a speech/homily/rant at Trinity UCC?
Certainly not out of the question.
Do congregants usually give "witness" like this?
I recall Wright saying at the National Press Club that a white woman had professed herself "unashamedly African" from the pulpit, so I can’t imagine that Michelle wouldn’t be able to get up there too, or at least shout it out from the congregation. I know that in one of the videos that they had a rapper up there leading the congregation in a New Years Eve dance and song.
Would it have been taped?
We can only hope so.
Just how would it go down if the Rev. Wright released the tape?
I could see the Rev. Wright selling the tape, but I don’t think he’d just give it away. He would have to have concluded on his own that Obama can’t win, because I do think that he wants Barack to "just get the power."

Methinks if this tape really existed, it would have surfaced by now.
Not necessarily, Ginny. You would want to deploy a weapon like that at just the right time, and do it rumor first. The Wright videos could have been had by any actually interested reporter for the entire first year of Obama’s campaign. But they just sat there in the Trinity gift shop waiting for an intrepid McClatchy reporter to show up (alas, one didn’t) and take an interest in the background of a presidential candidate.

And this isn’t one of those Obama’s a Muslim story (like the one from an op-ed New York Times just ran)
Written By: Martin McPhillips
You would want to deploy a weapon like that at just the right time, and do it rumor first.
I agree. Allowing the Obama Campaign to get out there with "This is a vile attack from those who just don’t want a black man in the White House" or "This is unfounded, and it’s a sign that those opposed to real change in Washington are willing to say anything to stop us" increases the power of an actual video my at least an order of magnitude.
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Be careful with this.

It could be another Jamil. The press hid him long enough until people started to question if he even existed. Although this was only postulated by commenters and secondary to the story, it gave them fodder to shift the story from the false or exaggerated reports to whether Jamil existed. Poof they claim to produce him.

This could be turned into another case of PR Kung Fu to use our own musings against us.

In otherwords there may be video, but it might not be that bad. So all the build up to what it ’could’ be is used against critics in areas where it actually is as bad as it looks.
Written By: jpm100
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"The retired CIA officer, who said that he and his fellow Crusaders have abandoned their effort,"

Right. They couldn’t find anybody, or create somebody, to put this on the internet if they couldn’t find anybody in the conventional media to publish it. I find this a bit hard to believe, especially considering that the Soviet Union successfully did this all the time, even had an organization for the express purpose of planting false or partly false stories that made the US look bad. I think most of the people who frequent this site know of other sites that are not too awfully scrupulous about checking sources, and have printed some really nutty stuff. If you can’t get it on the internet, you ain’t trying. Heck, judging from some things I have read, if you can’t get it published somewhere, anywhere, you ain’t trying.
Written By: timactual
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If you have control over the original find and distribution you can control the deployment as you suggest.

My point is that if this officer had the information out there over a year ago - he eventually put some of it on blogs, I have a hard time thinking Human Events did not pick it up for disbursement with the allegations on the madrassa, etc.

Anything is possible. I just find this one improbable.
Written By: Ginny in CO
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Contemplate for a second Republicans sitting on this October surprise telegraphing not only it’s existence but then, blowing their plans when they plan to roll it out to of all people, Larry Johnson? Sure.
Written By: Twicedimed
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I could be confusing him with someone else, but isn’t Larry Johnson the guy who used his long-ago, short-lived, and totally-irrelevent-to-the-war-on-terror CIA posting to create a niche for himself peddling truther garbage in the nutroots?

If this is the same guy, I’m not buying anything that he’s selling, but I can’t wait to see the same Leftys who have been promoting him all this time as an unimpeachable source (former CIA officer!) suddenly start telling us that Johnson can’t be trusted. It will almost be as rich as seeing them turn on Bubba after all these years of idol worship.
Written By: Aldo
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This is what we can say about this:

Is it possible? After seeing Mr. Hate Whitey say she is proud of America for the first time in her life, and using white people as a backdrop for her rallies, I would not be surprised in the least.

Does it exist? Who knows? Until we see it, it is merely rumor.

But it still is telling to me why Hillary Clinton, $20 million in debt, continues to pump millions into her campaign when Obama has the thing wrapped up. Is there something she knows and we don’t? After all, there have been whispers of Hillary having a "bomb" against O"bomb"a.

I, for one, cannot wait to see what happens with this one.
Written By: James Marsden
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Written By: Alan Srout
To who ever has got the tape
Please hold on to it until Hillary drops out
Written By: emmess
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You would want to deploy a weapon like that at just the right time, and do it rumor first.
Recall the George W. DWI story that was held until the week before the 2000 election. It made the election outcome closer than originally expected, which led to Florida and 7+ years of BDS.
Written By: Neo
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If there is a tape of Michelle Obama railing against "Whitey", it would explain a great deal.

First, it’s the way the Clintons operate - the politics of personal destruction. They hire private investigators. Look at what they did to the women who testified against Bill. Left no stone unturned. Remember the FBI files. Remember her comment that Barack had not been "properly vetted"?

Second, it accounts for her energizer bunny performance during the Pennsylvania primary campaign. She was smug and, in my view, too optimistic considering the dire circumstances. Hillary is not a cheerful, happy person. If she had something that would sink his nomination it would explain her little smirk.

Third, it tells us why she is spending her own money to stay in the race. While she’s free spender when the party or the government are picking up the tab, she’s reluctant to part with her own funds. In NY in 2006, she ran virtually unopposed but managed to spend over 50% of the democrat party’s campaign war chest - mostly on booze and shrimp cocktail parties, lavish hotel suites. Lots of small businesses who gave Hillary’s presidential campaign credit are regretting their decision. If she drops out and Obama implodes, she’s toast.

Fourth, it may be the reason Michelle was reported to have nixed Hillary as a VP.

There is a big problem, however. If Hillary’s surrogates are found to have released the tape, there will be a huge (and perhaps permanent) blow back from black voters. For Hillary, the best case would be for Wright to publicize the video. Failing that, she will probably try to leak it to a conservative who would serve as her useful idiot and hang it around the republican’s neck.
Written By: Arch
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Have you ever heard the phrase " couldn’t have written it that way." It’s a phrase historians use when recalling an event that seems unbelievable but IS true. With such wonderful scenarios posted here I cannot help but bite.

The Clintons have had the tape for some time. Why else would Bill reference an "October surprise"? Hoping Hilliary would be able to overtake Obama they didn’t release the tape during the campaign. However, realizing Obama will now get the nomination the tape has been given to Republican operatives under condition it not be released until October, which would virtually guarentee a Republican victory. What’s in it for the Clintons? Money to pay off the campaign debt and the power of a Bill Clinton appointment as John McCain’s Secretary of State. Bill then negotiates peace agreements around the world and Hilliary rises to Senate Majority Leader where she can hold "real" power.

Like I said, " couldn’t have written it that way."

Written By: Steve
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Obama! "No You Can’t!!!!"
Good Read!!! Pass it ON!!!!
Written By: Norma
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I don’t think "you could have it written it that way" to have a serious black presidential candidate:

* whose name rhymes with Osama
* whose middle-name is Hussein
* who attends a black power church
* whose pastor bashes America and whites
* yet the candidate runs on a platform of unity
* and has a cult-like following among the young
* and though he has the most liberal voting record he campaigns as a centrist
* and the media is so obviously "in the tank" for the candidate that a liberal TV show makes fun of them

This sounds like a bad political thriller written by Ayn Rand.
Written By: huxley
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And I forgot the candidate’s connections to Weather Underground bombers!

This can’t be happening!
Written By: huxley
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