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John Hawkins votes "no" on McCain
Posted by: McQ on Friday, May 23, 2008

I do a weekend guest blogging spot on John Hawkins' "Right Wing News" blog so I keep an eye on what's going on over there.

Hawkins is as conservative a Republican as you'll find, and like most conservatives is trying mightily to find reasons to support John McCain. However, it seems McCain is much more interested in appealing to the big middle than courting conservatives. This is apparent in many of his stances such as global warming, campaign finance reform and drilling in ANWR. It is most apparent in his ever changing stance on illegal immigration. That stance has again changed so much that John Hawkins, staunch conservative Republican, has finally decided that he can no longer support John McCain's candidacy. I'll let him explain.

Bottom line: look for more of this as McCain's campaign continues. It seems fairly obvious to me that the campaign has decided that the base has nowhere else to go and it will risk losing some of it to appeal to greater numbers of "moderates" and "independents".
 
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Until mccain repudiates bush’s disgraceful neo-con policies, I’m not coming back to the gop fold any time soon. We were in control of the ENTIRE government for 6 1/2 years. What did we do?

NO Social Security Reform
NO Health Care Reform
NO Immigration Reform
NO Border Security
NO Bin Ladden

The leadership of the party is hopelessly out of touch, and appears only to want to stay in power, how ever they can.
 
Written By: dectra
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I’m still where I’ve been since Feb 1. I will not vote for the man. I don’t care whether the opponent is Hillary "I’ll take from you for the common good" Clinton or an increasingly clueless-looking Barack Obama.

I still don’t think either one will do any more damage than McCain, and at least it’s possible that putting the Republicans back in the minority and out of the White House will make them realize how they came to run government in the first place.

The GOP’s two biggest electoral successes in the last thirty years were the landslide election of Ronald Reagan in 1984 and the "Contract with America" Congress in 1994. Both times, the GOP succeeded by laying out some strong limited government principles.

When they imitate Democrats, their support erodes. Blatantly inept Democratic opponents lessened the erosion for a few years, but didn’t stop it. When you’re losing to clowns such as Pelosi and Obama, it can only be because you really, really deserve to lose.

The fact that they can’t learn this simple lesson causes me to seriously question their intelligence.

I acknowledge the risks of a Democratic presidency - higher taxes, Supreme Court judges, etc. The biggest one is Iraq. But the long term direction of this country is a bigger question, and continuing down the "moderate Republican" track gets us to the same collectivist endpoint that the left wants, only a bit more slowly. Assuming those "moderate Republicans" can keep any significant power even if McCain wins this fall, and given trends in Congress, I strongly doubt that they can.

 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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In pure electoral terms, McCain’s strategy to appeal to moderates and independents at the cost of the base is probably the right one given the conditions of this election season.

 
Written By: Shark
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I don’t see it. Seems to me that McCain has remained consistent in his desire for comprehensive immigration reform, and I don’t see his new comments as definitively stating that he’s abandoned the goal of securing the borders. And this: "John McCain is a liar. He’s a man without honor, without integrity..." is absolutely hyperbolic and odious.
 
Written By: capital L
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dectra, you over-estimate the amount of control a super-slim majority in both houses will give you. The fact is, that the Democrats and the Rinos killed off any chance we had of dealing with those issues.

The only solution that hasn’t been tried is a large Republican majority, and I submit that is what is needed.

And let me be clear, here. I don’t give a damn about the ‘honor’ of the Republicans, as cited by Hawkins, in light of the larger questions facing us. Frankly, I find such a term attached to any pol of either party to be offensive, anyway. What I am most concerned about is this country’s future. Specifically, the question: “Will it actually HAVE one following the next presidency?” No argument that Obama in the White House, spells destruction. There’s no question in my mind on that score. The question still outstanding is, is McCain any better? Given this Amnesty bit, and some other indications we’ve discussed here recently, I’d be hard pressed to make the choice.

So, we’re still facing the next four years, and I’m still facing a choice, as are we all. We find ourselves faced with a choice of McCain, or the man who actually performed the monumental task of making Hillary Clinton seem like a sane choice… Obama. It’s a demonstration of how bad McCain is, that the choice is still listed as ‘day to day’.
 
Written By: Bithead
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McCain might not be Ronald Reagan, but at least he’s, you know, not Barack Obama, and importantly, he’s electable. In this election, with Democrats almost unanimously expected to sweep the presidency and impose "change" and "reforms", the Republicans have nominated the only candidate who might be able to thwart, or at least slow, the Democrats’ plans for further collectivisation, because of his abilitiy to connect with the current mainstream.

I agree that some time spent in the opposition would be an excellent opportunity for the right to rediscover its own ideals, but to me it seems that too much is at stake here. I’m not a US citizen, so obviously I can’t vote, but if I could, McCain would be getting mine.

We’re all dreaming of a new Goldwater or Reagan to stand up and shift the Republican Party and the public in general more to the economic right wing. But we must remember that right now, we are not mainstream, and we must compromise to get at least part of what we want in the next election. In my opinion, it’s better to be standing on the sidelines of a McCain presidency, yelling that we disagree, than to be standing on the sidelines of an Obama presidency, yelling that we disagree even more.
 
Written By: ishopphotos
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Not that anyone would be inclined to favor my counsel, but my own view is that conservatives will be able to find neither refuge nor comfort if they decline to support the Republican nominee. Rather, this is the future that I see if and when the Left controls both the Executive branch and the Legistlative branch:

++ The Left will enact health care policy that will eventually reduce access to care, while increasing its cost...but the Left will blame conservatives for this tragic result for not going far enough.

++ The Left will enact education policy that would be even more costly with fewer tangible results...but they will blame conservatives for the result because conservatives refused to sign onto even greater funding.

++ The Left will deploy back to a purely defensive posture on terrorism, increasing the risk of a 9-11 type atrocity...but will still blame conservatives for making the Islamic radicals hate us during eight years of Bush43.

++ The Left will enact tax policy which will send the economy in reverse...and still blame conservatives for the result by claiming that conservatives weren’t willing to go farther toward a socialist future.

(Should I go on?)

The bottom line is this: whatever bad things happen from Democratic policy, conservatives will still get the blame. I have no doubt about that. Moreover, because the Left and the MSM share the same ideology, this blaming is likely to be successful, and is likely to stick. So, in my view, there is no comfort nor advantage to be taken by sitting it out, or voting for a candidate who has no chance of winning.

I counsel that conservatives support the Republican nominee. Getting part of our agenda passed is better than getting NONE of it passed, while getting blamed for all the Left’s policy failures to boot. And make no mistake: the latter will happen.

—-Johnson

(PS: McCain isn’t my preferred candidate either. But as the Baseball Crank says, ideas don’t run for President. People do.)






 
Written By: John Johnson
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There are only two things that keep me voting for McCain, (1) the war in Iraq and (2) supreme court judges. In just about every other issue that McCain campaigns on, I cringe to think I might have to vote for the guy.
 
Written By: Clark Taylor
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SPAM ALERT!!!


I hope people realize McCain is offering ’Points’ to people who leave positive comments about his on other blogs.

Malkin & Day by Day on McCain’s Points

 
Written By: jpm100
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A policy which pretty much has me glaze over whenever there’s a pro-McCain post.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Billy Hollis:
I will not vote for the man. I don’t care whether the opponent is Hillary "I’ll take from you for the common good" Clinton or an increasingly clueless-looking Barack Obama.
Oh come on, Billy. You’re just holding out until he names Huckabee as his running mate. Then you’ll be out there slapping on bumper stickers and putting up yard signs and everything else. Right?

(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)
 
Written By: Linda Morgan
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Oh come on, Billy. You’re just holding out until he names Huckabee as his running mate.
Heh. Yep, naming a religious version of John Edwards as a running mate would certainly make a difference, wouldn’t it?

I think if you look in the dictionary for the word "smarmy", you’ll see Huckabee’s picture beside it.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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As a liberal I can only say: Let the rEVOLution begin.
 
Written By: Retief
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Each time Huckabee is touted (primarily by Huckabee) as a potential VP candidate, I recall your flat declaration to the GOP earlier this year:
If you nominate Mike Huckabee or John McCain, you’ve lost me. I won’t vote for your candidate. Period.
During the early primaries, those two candidates raked up more disdain, disgust and avowals of Election Day boycotts — from conservatives and small-government fans — than any other GOP hopefuls I can recall. And here we have one of them on top of the ticket, with the other still preening for a shot at the VP slot. I don’t see it happening but, really, I can’t say I even care anymore.
 
Written By: Linda Morgan
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It is a cliche, but a practical one in presidential politics. Don’t make perfect the enemy of the good.

Because there are only two choices, I vote for the one who, on balance, most represents my views. Sometimes it is a close call. But for the past 16 years it hasn’t been. Since 9/11 is still unavenged, it won’t this year either.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
It is a cliche, but a practical one in presidential politics. Don’t make perfect the enemy of the good.
Problem is, neither one is good. At the moment, the choice is, which s th least Bad. At the moment, by the smallest margin imaginable, that’s McCain.

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitsblog.florack.us
Close enough, Bit.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
I acknowledge the risks of a Democratic presidency - higher taxes, Supreme Court judges, etc. The biggest one is Iraq. But the long term direction of this country is a bigger question, and continuing down the "moderate Republican" track gets us to the same collectivist endpoint that the left wants, only a bit more slowly. Assuming those "moderate Republicans" can keep any significant power even if McCain wins this fall, and given trends in Congress, I strongly doubt that they can.
Even on Iraq, McCain has more in common with Democrats than conservatives. McCain supports a 2013 date for withdrawal. McCain’s record is also one of higher taxes and opposition to conservative Supreme Court justices.
 
Written By: Kevin
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