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Another one under the Obama bus
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, June 12, 2008

As the Wall Street Journal points out, Jim Johnson is just another among a growing list of people Barack Obama really never knew.
As for Mr. Obama, Mr. Johnson now joins an intriguing and growing list of Mr. Obama's ex-associates that includes the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, and former terrorist bomber William Ayers. We might call this list eclectic, except that there is a consistent pattern of bad judgment followed by an initial defense, then followed by rapid disassociation and regret that none of them were the men Mr. Obama "knew."
I'm beginning to wonder about the "bad judgement" characterization anymore.

I'm not sure, in his role as a community organizer or a state senator, that knowing Wright, Rezko, Ayers and Pfleger was based in "bad judgment". In fact, I'd suggest it was based in very good judgment - these were the people on a local level whose support he needed. My guess is he purposely courted and befriended them in order to further his own political career. What they were or did really wasn't relevant in terms of his ambition.

Nope, not a case of bad judgment at all. Instead very calculated judgment. At a time when it was necessary, he had no problem associating with an anti-American preacher or two, a crook and a terrorist if they could further his career.

And, of course, when they became an embarrassment, they were expendable. Deny they were the people he thought he "knew" and whoosh, right under the bus with granny.

Yup - a real breath of change our Mr. Obama.
 
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We had the Clinton scandal-a-day administration for eight years.

We may be on the brink of the Obama scandal-a-day administration and another liar at the head of it.

I hate to say this, but if Obama is elected this country deserves what it gets.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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I don’t think the country deserves whatever it gets if Obama is elected any more than the unfortunate people of Zimbabwe deserve what they’ve gotten after what was apparently a free and fair first election of Mugabe.

I agree that it’s a really bad thing that decent, reasonably intelligent ordinary people can’t see the dangers of those who support Marxist or quasi-Marxist policies and proposals for governance.

I suspect that Obama will be elected and that in less than 18 months the US electorate will be really, really sorry. How that turns out I can’t guess. I suppose it will depend on who rallies to Obama and how he and they respond.

Fortunately, at this point we still have both the First and Second Amendments.

I’m upping my armament situation soon.
 
Written By: JorgXMcKie
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The needle on my Obamamometer has been drifting back and forth between Ideologue and Opportunist, but lately it’s settled securely on Opportunist.
 
Written By: huxley
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I don’t think the country deserves whatever it gets if Obama is elected any more than the unfortunate people of Zimbabwe deserve what they’ve gotten after what was apparently a free and fair first election of Mugabe.
I’m not sure how free and fair it was, but Jimmy Carter worked behind the scenes to overturn the initial election and put Mugabe in power.
 
Written By: Don
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Coming soon: "That’s not the Jim Johnson I knew."

Coming later: "That’s not the Michelle I knew."

Obama is going to run out of people to disown.
 
Written By: the wolf
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There are two possibilities with Obama:

1. He’s an opportunist, with basically moderate views that is running to the left for the primaries, and used the far left early in his career. This is my current view, but since its based mainly on gut feeling, some Obama statements, and some of his better advisers, I could be wrong.

2. He’s pretty left wing, but knew he had to look more moderate for the presidential race. The evidence for this is his record and his associates.

Now, even if no. 2 is correct, he will be restrained if he is elected by the opposition and by cross-over blue dog democrats. Will there be enough of them to curb his potential enthusiasms? I don’t know.

I have also heard the argument that as the first black president, he will be extremely cautious and moderate.

If he is elected and then we have buyer’s remorse, the key would be to avoid allowing him to get any major new programs passed, i.e. universal health care, as those are hard to kill later on. Higher taxes can be cut later on and windfall profit confiscation laws rescinded. Bureaucracies are much harder to kill off.
 
Written By: Harun
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Harun — A good analysis.

I see him as Opportunist with leftist views because that’s the matrix he grew up in and later exploited, but his commitment is to himself as president.

I’m not sure what he would do as president. I suspect he’ll always lead to the left, but pull back as necessary. A cross between Carter and Clinton with his appointees as wild cards.
 
Written By: huxley
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Unless Obama can get this under control (possibly by hiring some adult supervision), I get the feeling that Bush’s "Atta boy, Brownie" and "100% support" for Gonzales are gonna look almost quaint in about 18 months.
 
Written By: Terry
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Mediocre judgment at best. Better judgment would have been to befriend when it helped him, then quietly ditch them shortly after the 2004 election, when it was (or should have been) clear that he wouldn’t need them again. That way, they’d have been stale non-news by the time they had the potential to hurt him.
 
Written By: Xrlq
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Bump.
Bump.
Bump.
Another goes under the bus...
Bump.
Bump.
Bump.
Another goes under the bus...
And another one gone
And another one gone
And another one gone
Hey
Hey... he’s gonna dump you too
Another goes under the bus...
Look out...
 
Written By: Bithead
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The great thing here is we know if Obama gets too much pressure on one of his people, he’ll throw them under the bus. It opens up so many possibilities for his VP selections.

If you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen Obama!
 
Written By: Daniel Stark
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"Another goes under the bus..."

LOL. Thanks.

It’s not bad judgement, although it may be bad character. Once you mature you develop certain beliefs and ideals, and you stop hanging with ’cool’ people who are fun and exciting, and start hanging with people who share your beliefs and ideals. You don’t expose your family, the ones you love, and especially your children, to people and ideas you find offensive.
 
Written By: timactual
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Huxley,

The thing is that I know a few very smart people who grew up fairly leftist, but gradually learned their lesson, in that they KNOW that markets do work better, that taxing capital gains is not a good idea, etc., but even these folks can still hold onto the old rhetoric or lapse. I just don’t think they’d do so once they were in power.

BTW, I think I might have been called a racist because I made fun of a photo of Obama riding a bike, and noticing that he matches up very closely with several items on the website "Stuff White People Like" .e.g. Whole Foods, the Ivy League, bicycles, new balance shoes, being a religion other than your parents, and of course, Barack Obama. I was told the subtext was not good.

If this is what’s going to happen, prepare yourself for a rough 4 years of President Obama who cannot be made fun of because he is black. And the kicker is of course they get to decide what you subtext is.
 
Written By: Harun
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Harun — Obama is not yet President and it’s very difficult to make fun of him without getting into trouble.

Obama may distrust markets as a typical leftist does. I can’t tell how much Obama knows about markets or anything outside his leftist PC world.

I assume Obama is a decent enough lawyer because of his Harvard degree and he’s more than proved to be a talented politician, but the rest of his knowledge he seems to have absorbed from reading authors like Howard Zinn and talking to other left/liberal friends.
 
Written By: huxley
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LOL. Thanks.
(Slight Bow.)

Spur of the moment stuff.

I polished it a bit and posted it.
 
Written By: Bithead
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