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Iraq - progress toward reconciliation
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

From page 8 of the Washington Post:
Iraq's main Sunni Muslim political bloc is on the verge of rejoining the Shiite-led government after a nearly year-long boycott, a step widely seen as vital to reconciliation after years of sectarian conflict.
Why?
Sunni leaders now say the government has done enough to address their core conditions, including passing an amnesty law that has freed thousands of Sunni detainees this year. The leaders said they were also encouraged by the government's efforts in tackling Shiite militias, especially the Mahdi Army of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

"We feel that a great deal of them have been fulfilled," said Salim Abdullah al-Jubori, a spokesmen for the Sunni bloc, referring to the conditions.
Sounds like progress where I come from.

And the newest report, even though the usual suspects are scoffing at it, say 15 of the 18 benchmarks are satisfactory.

The fact that it hasn't happened in the arbitrary timeframe which critics preferred seems to be their main gripe.
 
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Irrelevant...The Public Demands We Come Home From This War of Aggression...Doom...Quagmire...Redeploy.
 
Written By: Joe
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Bless you Joe, Bless you. Doing yeoman’s work on reminding us of the ongoing and ever increasing disaster that is Iraq.
If you could throw in a few "American Decline" statements I’d feel even better about the whole thing.
 
Written By: looker
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D@mn Looker I forgot...you lose the QB for a couple of weeks and the whole game goes to Sh*te!...Curses....

This War of Aggression has weakned the US and furthered its decline in the world...I believe only the election of Obama can restore, in a limited manner, the pwoer this nation had, once, and has squandered!
 
Written By: Joe
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You dense righties just go on joking about it. You’re suffering confirmation bias. You only see the things you want to see, which gives you the illusion of progress in Iraq.

I see only bad things there. And that’s not confirmation bias, no sir. That’s godlike powers of political science at work.

You just wait. It’s all going to go up in flames any minute now. America is in decline, and that means we can’t possibly have any influence with those brown noble savages in the Middle East. They see how weak we are, and they are just holding out until the time is right. They’ll strike like a cobra, and our military will be helpless to do anything about it. Jimmy Carter said so.

Come on over to my blog and read an Iraq post of such massive word count that it sucked pencils off my desk into an alternate dimension because of the gravitational effects. My writing is so compelling that I’m going to attract a huge audience that will breathlessly await the hundred thousand words or so I post each day. Just wait. It will happen any day now.

And when Iraq falls apart and Iran conquers everything and we have to retreat in humiliation, I’ll be back to tell you how smart I was and how I predicted it all. I’m telling you, it’s inevitable. It has to be, or the structure of my entire universe would decompose into microscopic particles and I would be left whimpering in the corner of the faculty lounge.

Of course, I’d have a lot of company.
 
Written By: Ott Scerb
URL: http://cluelessprof.maine.edu
Erb has been too quiet lately.
 
Written By: Joel C.
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Erb has been too quiet lately.

That’s because Scerb and I are in the "pitching rotation"...we’re saving Dr. Erb’s "arm" until the big game, the the week before the season ends. When we’re closer to election time, Scott Erb will take the field, tanned, rested and ready....
 
Written By: Joe
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Two of the three missed benchmarks were oil legislation and legislation to disarm the militias, which have been overcome by events. The Mahdi Army is down to about 150 people and the provinces are already sharing oil revenue.

However, I’m sure Erb isn’t satisfied with a 90% reduction in violence and 83% benchmarks met.
 
Written By: arch
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Pshah Arch Iraq will not be a success until it elects an gay, cross-dressing Barbara Streisand impersonator President, until that time, Iraq is a FAILURE!

It would be less a failure if the Iraqi government would start a college professorial exchange program bringing those of us with God-like Powers of Political Science to explain how Iraq has been raped and irreparably damaged by the US Occupation, and subsequently needs to immediately throw all Americans out-except for those with Godlike Powers of Political Science, of course!-and turn to the UN to demand IMMEDITE trillion dollar reparations from the US! This program could be funded via vouchers for barrels of oil to be sold at a future date...I believe the former regime used such a program to much good effect in the 1990’s.
 
Written By: Joe
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Wingnuttery strikes again.

It’s bad enough that the US government has to spy on the Iraqi army - an army that we support with our tax dollars.

To make the matters worse, our spy operations against Iran being operated out of Iraq are so completely compromised that the Iranians know we are coming to spy on them before we get there.

Gosh, do you think that there is a coincidence here?

Why are wingnuts so clueless about the Middle East? (Greeted as liberators, Iraqi oil money will pay for the war, etc.) Why do they continue to buy into this fantasy that the Iraqi or the Iranians - Sunni or Shia - have any loyalty whatsoever to the US?

Because they are wingnuts. The questions answers itself.

Where is Kissinger when you need him?
 
Written By: mkultra
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Did you actually read the articles clown, or did you stop at the headlines?

And what do they have to do with the idea that the Sunni’s and Shites in Iraq are reconciling.

Or do you just hunt around for the word IRAQ in articles, assume it’s got to be bad news and post links to it so you can use the word WINGNUTS again today.
 
Written By: looker
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M.K. Dinosaur:
Where is Kissinger when you need him?
Where is the KGB when you need them?

You so earnestly warm up their canned propaganda techniques leftover from the Cold War, I wonder if you’ve ever looked at the expiration date on that stuff.

Or whether you’re just eating out of the cans you’re handed, and don’t look much beyond the next meal.

 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
Where is the KGB when you need them?

You so earnestly warm up their canned propaganda techniques leftover from the Cold War, I wonder if you’ve ever looked at the expiration date on that stuff.

Or whether you’re just eating out of the cans you’re handed, and don’t look much beyond the next meal.


It’s realpolitik We could have used more of it over the last few years. Your type truly believed that the Iraqi war would pay for itself, and lead to the outbreak of democracy throughout the Middle East. Your type believed that we would have only 30,000 troops in Iraq at the end of 2003.

In other words, your types were HIGH. And for years we have been listening to your predictions that have repeatedly turned out to be wrong.

Have the ethnic and sectarian tensions been resolved in Iraq? Hardly. And those who say they have are the same people who believed we would be welcomed as liberators. The same people making common cause with Maliki, who can’t help but hug the Iranians.
 
Written By: mkultra
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Have the ethnic and sectarian tensions been resolved in America? Hardly.

Perhaps we should withdraw from the United States.

You first. I’ll be along in a minute.
 
Written By: Jeff
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Your type truly believed that the Iraqi war would pay for itself
Any proof that was an official government policy? Any proof that people in authority suggested this from the get go?

Or do you take the ravings of right wing loonies (as opposed to left wing loonies like yourself) on the street to be part of established government policy when it fits your wingnuts paradigm?

Come on, you can level with us, are you REALLY a lawyer? Really and truly?
Is it something you’re doing in your spare time out of the back of your bicycle repair shop and chinese box-kite company?

 
Written By: looker
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In authority? Sure. Whether they believed it or not who can say, but it was certainly policy to claim it. Here are a few, but if you really want to see a gallery of Fail, go check out the wikiquote pages for Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and Cheney.

"Iraq is a very wealthy country. Enormous oil reserves. They can finance, largely finance the reconstruction of their own country. And I have no doubt that they will."

Richard Perle, chair
The Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
July 11, 2002

"There is a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be US taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. We are talking about a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."

Paul Wolfowitz
Deputy Secretary of Defense
testifying before the defense subcommittee
of the House Appropriations Committee
March 27, 2003

"It is unimaginable that the United States would have to contribute hundreds of billions of dollars and highly unlikely that we would have to contribute even tens of billions of dollars."

Kenneth Pollack
former director for Persian Gulf affairs
National Security Council
September 2002
 
Written By: Retief
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To troll you Retief - war and reconstruction aren’t the same thing.
 
Written By: looker
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