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Give burglers a break
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, July 09, 2008

That's the recommendation of a sentencing commission in the UK:
Burglars should no longer be sentenced to jail, official advisers have said.

Unpaid work or a curfew would normally be a better way of punishing break-ins and thefts, said a panel that issues guidelines to judges.
And the victims? Of course they should have a say in sentencing - sort of:
It also says victims of crime could be allowed a say in the way criminals are punished - but only if they call for leniency rather than harsh sentencing.
I can see it now - do community service during the day, and burglarize at night. The only risk is more community service if caught, or, if the judge really wants to stick it to them - curfew! Talk about a way to spark a growth profession.

The name of the panel making these recommendations? The Sentencing Advisory Panel - or SAP for short.
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The name of the panel making these recommendations?
Oh sweet irony...
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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What could possibly go wrong?
Written By: the wolf
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What could possibly go wrong?

Great, now the UK will explode. Way to jinx it...
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I swear, the more I read about the UK the more I expect to wake up to news that the citizenry just couldn’t take it anymore and rampaged on Parliment, with high fatality numbers for the powdered wig set.

THAT is the country that once basically ruled the world? Good lord.

What happend!??!?!

Written By: shark
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THAT is the country that once basically ruled the world? Good lord.

What happend!??!?!
Two world wars.

I don’t think we have a good feel for just how much those wars took out of Britain compared to us. So many of their best, brightest, and most motivated ended up buried in Burma or North Africa or some other foresaken battlefield.

Since that time, the predominant theme in British government and culture has been "don’t make waves". Except for a brief counter-attack by Thatcher, it’s been a smooth march towards a society where "let’s pretend" is the dominant strategy. Let’s pretend that people don’t have to work to live prosperous lives. Let’s pretend that treating criminals nicely will magically cause them to reform. Let’s pretend that giving in to threats from Muslim fundamentalists will induce them to play nice.

Six decades of "don’t make waves" and "let’s pretend" have eroded the ability of the society to respond to even existential threats. The ones who recognized this earliest (which implies that they were reasonably smart and perceptive) got out long ago. The exodus has continued to the point where the bold leadership Britain needs to turn around simply isn’t there. It’s in Canada, the US, or Australia.

I’m afraid they’re simply biding time until their core British society simply disintegrates into a combination of sclerotic Euro-soci*lism with ghettos of fanatic Islam. We may look back and see Britain’s effort in Iraq as the last dying breath of a once-powerful world empire.

It’s very sad. But if it’s sad for us to watch it, imagine how much worse it must be for those who have to live it.
Written By: Billy Hollis
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> What happend!??!?!

A century of democracy, that’s what.


It’s definitely A Clockwork Orange over there now.
Written By: Mike Schneider
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only if they call for leniency rather than harsh sentencing.
More’s the pity. I would be using words like ’scourging.’
Written By: Achillea
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THAT is the country that once basically ruled the world? Good lord.

What happend!??!?!
I’m not so sure its not happening here.

Victims of their own success. They were (and we are) well enough off that we can implement some ridiculous program and when it fails, we can absorb the mess easily. So no one learns anything from it.

They way I like to say what Billy H. said about "let’s pretend" is that there’s a disconnect between what people would like to believe that works and what really works. That disconnect is enabled by current and past success.

There’s also the slow economic death syndrome. Almost all of us gain personal economic advancement with age. We get a better wage. We pay off the mortgage. We advance on merit or even just seniority. We simply do better without the rest of the country on average not having to do better.

As long as the economic decay of country as a result of such programs is slower than personal advancement, people won’t get upset. They personally feel like they are still advancing. Even though their age/job counterpart from 15 years ago was doing better, they personally are doing better than 15 years ago. So they don’t notice.
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They’re all just very successful encylopedia salesmen.

Written By: Bithead
I think it’s interesting that they evidently ignore the evidence that shows that ’career burglars’ commit a burglary on an average of every three days or so. That is, the average full-time burglar commits around 120-125 burglaries a year. Putting them in jail lowers that rate.

My brother the cop says only three things stop the burgling careers of burglars: prison; death; and becoming fences.
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