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How To Fete A Child Killer
Posted by: MichaelW on Thursday, July 17, 2008

For the low, low price of two badly mutilated dead Israeli soldiers, Lebanon gets to shower a beloved holy warrior with wild praise as they treat him to a hero's welcome.



The Lebanese press (read, "Hezbollah mouthpiece") had its say too:
On the dawning of the day after the prisoner swap deal, enacted with Hizbullah on Wednesday, media linked to the Shiite group continue to celebrate with articles commending Hizbullah's "victory," which included the return of convicted murderer Samir Kuntar to Lebanon.

"Salaam to you, people of Lebanon," Lebanese newspaper al-Akhbar called out. The paper, which has ties with Hizbullah, covered the affair closely. The article quoted from Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah's speech, in which he said he would now turn to "strategic" matters such as the releasing of the Shabaa Farms and the defense of Lebanon.

As-Safir news launched the title, "Second July: Freedom for the prisoners and national unity", and presented the "victory" as equal to Hizbullah's achievements in the Second Lebanon War two years ago. "July 16 is an historical day, a day of unity," the paper said.

"Arab and Lebanese joy at the return of the prisoners and the bones of the shahids (martyrs)," read the title of the article by al-Quds al-Arabi, a London-based paper. Al-Manar celebrated the "national wedding", the name given to the festive affair in Lebanon, and interrupted broadcasts in order to bring live coverage of the funerals of the kidnapped soldiers in Israel.
Isn't that lovely. Allah knows that anyone brave enough to shoot a 4 year old girl's father to death before her very eyes, and then courageously crush the girl's head against the rocks with the butt of his gun and the heel of his boot, deserves such wonderful treatment. Especially after he had to endure such cruel treatment of being held in captivity by the Jewish pig-dog state, in such close congress with infidels. It's no wonder that Qantar and his merry band of warriors vowed to carry on the brave, brave work of killing more little girls:
Five Lebanese terrorists set free as part of a prisoner swap with Israel prayed Thursday at the grave of a slain Hizbullah military commander, pledging to follow in his footsteps and continue fighting Israel.

Wearing military fatigues, the five walked down a red carpet laid out for them outside Imad Mughniyeh's burial spot at a cemetery south of Beirut. They laid wreaths and gave a military salute at the grave as supporters showered them with rice.

Mughniyeh, a shadowy figure Israel and the West accuse of masterminding terrorist bombings in the 1980s and 1990s, was killed in a car bomb in neighboring Syria in February. Hizbullah and its supporters regard him as a hero of almost mythical stature.

"We swear to God...to continue on your same path and not to retreat until we achieve the same stature that Allah bestowed on you," said Lebanon's longest-held prisoner in Israel, Samir Kuntar. He refered to Mughniyeh's "martyrdom."

"This is our great wish. We envy you and we will achieve it, God willing," Kuntar said.

Huh. So if you release terrorists back to their home countries they may start terrorizing all over again? That seems important somehow. Have to make a mental note to follow up on that.

Anyway, there's no denying that Sami Qantar is a real class act. Totally deserving a real Hezbollah Huzzah!
On the Lebanese side of the Rosh Hanikra Israel-Lebanon border crossing, Hezbollah erected a platform upon which to honor Kuntar. Lebanese, Palestinian and Hezbollah flags were hung above the stage.

A former cellmate of Samir Kuntar, Jaber Weshah, who is now deputy director of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights in Gaza, said: "Today is a true day of joy for all Palestinians and all freedom lovers across the world."


Caption: Hezbollah jihadis salute their fallen hero, and Samir Qantar's role model, Imad Mughniyah, at his funeral.

[HT: Hot Air]
 
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And with this display, the Palestinians are thumbing their nose at the Israleis. I hope the Israelis are paying attention. Hamas has sworn to get their just due for the one remaining Israeli hostage.

There is an old Irish prayer that goes like this:
Lord please grant me what I want,
And failing that please grant me what I need,
But Lord, whatever you do, do not grant me what I deserve!


To all Palestinians I offer you the fervent hope you get just what you deserve!
 
Written By: SShiell
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"Lebanon gets to shower a beloved holy warrior with wild praise... "
I pray soon we can shower them with hot lead. Islam, the religion of peace. And apparently pieces (of child’s skull), as well.
 
Written By: Tim M
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To all Palestinians I offer you the fervent hope you get just what you deserve!
Looks like they are. Do wonder, though, why it is ok to not only wish harm against all Palestinians, including the sick, the hungry, and the orphans, but to actually carry it out.
MIDEAST: Israel Targets Hamas Orphanages
By Peter Hirschberg

JERUSALEM, Jul 15 (IPS) - Shopping malls. Schools. Medical centres. Charities, orphanages. Soup kitchens. These are the latest targets in the campaign the Israeli military is waging against Hamas in the West Bank.

Israeli military officials have identified Hamas’s civilian infrastructure in the West Bank as a major source of the Islamic group’s popularity, and have begun raiding and shutting down these institutions in cities like Hebron, Nablus and Qalqilyah.

Last week, troops focused their efforts in Nablus, raiding the city hall and confiscating computers. They also stormed into a shopping mall and posted closure notices on the shop windows. A girls’ school and a medical centre were shut down in the city, and a charitable association had its computers impounded and documents seized.

This policy, officials say, is meant to deny the Islamic group, which is committed to Israel’s destruction, the ability to use these institutions as a pipeline by which money is channelled to finance attacks on the Jewish state. But the main goal of this campaign is to stem Hamas’s growing popularity in the West Bank, and ensure it does not seize control of the area as it did in Gaza a year ago, when its forces vanquished the more moderate Fatah movement headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

In Gaza, Hamas was able to capture the hearts and minds of the residents not just because it offered an alternative to the corruption-tainted Fatah leadership, but also because its network of schools, clinics, summer camps, after-school activities and charitable associations provided impoverished Gazans with the type of institutions and welfare alternatives that the Palestinian Authority failed to.

As part of the campaign, Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak recently issued orders outlawing 36 NGOs that function abroad because he said they were raising money for Hamas. According to estimates by defence officials, anywhere between 120 to 200 million dollars has been funnelled to institutions associated with Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank over the last year. The money has come from institutions in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Gulf States, Europe, South America and the U.S.

In recent months, the army has also closed down an orphanage, a bakery and other institutions in Hebron, which Israel believes are associated with Hamas. In Gaza, meanwhile, Israel and the Islamic group are observing a truce, but this does not pertain to the West Bank where the Israeli military operates freely.

Writing in the daily Haaretz newspaper this week, columnist Gideon Levy calls the move against Hamas-related institutions "ludicrous." Residents of the West Bank, he concludes, "cannot be simultaneously imprisoned, prohibited from earning a living and offered no social welfare assistance while we strike at those who are trying to do so, whatever their motives. If Israel wants to fight the charitable associations, it must at least offer alternative services. On whose back are we fighting terror? Widows? Orphans? It’s shameful."
 
Written By: mkultra
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Ah, if it’s a charitable terrorist organization that makes it okay! Right.
I see. Do some good works, help the kiddies, hand out some medicine and occasionally attack Israel, fling in a rocket or two, maybe send a kamikaze bomber in to blow up an evil Israeli pizza parlor, kill some soldiers, take their bodies and hold them for 2 years to help the families from having to deal with their deaths and all.

And remember to celebrate a guy who can bash out a kid’s brains with his rifle butt to achieve his homeland.

You’re a real winner, you know that?
 
Written By: looker
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When Islamic fascists fire 122mm rockets willy-nilly, hoping they kill someone, ANYONE, that’s okay? (I was on the receiving end of them 40 years ago, MK. It’s not fun.)
At some point we’ll have to smoke ’em. Sooner is better, I think.
 
Written By: Greybeard
URL: http://pitchpull.blogspot.com
You’re a real winner, you know that?
I think the welcome given to Kuntar is horrible.

Having said that, I still don’t understand the mentality that says ALL Palestinians must suffer - including orphans and the infirm - because of the actions of some Palestinians.

I guess you do.
When Islamic fascists fire 122mm rockets willy-nilly, hoping they kill someone, ANYONE, that’s okay?
I didn’t say that. Where did I say that? Show me. Show me where I said that.

I was responding to a post that said ALL Palestinians must suffer. I think that is wrong. What do you think?
 
Written By: mkultra
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post that said ALL Palestinians must suffer. I think that is wrong. What do you think?
Well I’m putting the Palestinians into the same boat as the Germans 1933-45, Dude. They not HAVE to suffer, in a certain moralistic/Calvinist sense of paying for their sins, but they are GOING to suffer as a result of their actions. Just as the Germans did for their choice of political ideology and leadership.

You can think it wrong, but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen. Personally, I think they are getting what they paid for; You reap what you sow....

As to orphanages and the like being targeted I’m more than willing to bet that Hamas is DELIBERATELY using them as cover for their activities.

Who you pulling for here MK...don’t tell me you "wish" or "want" or you "think", tell me who, in the end the right resides mostly with...Israel or Hamas. Sorry they both aren’t equally right or wrong...

And that’s REAL morality, where the rubber meets the road...you can hope/wish/pray real hard and Sh*t in the other hand...see which one fills up first, but at the end of the day I’m on the side of the democracy, that accords Arabs rights, gays rights, womyn rights, has an independent judiciary and a sense of decency and values human life. The Palestinians have chosen a crew that does NONE of these things...so like the Germans in Hitler’s Germany they are now going to pay for having made a really bad set of choices and for continuing to make those bad choices.


 
Written By: Joe
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A former cellmate of Samir Kuntar, Jaber Weshah, who is now deputy director of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights in Gaza,
Human rights? I didn’t know there were any humans there
 
Written By: shark
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I didn’t say that. Where did I say that?
Using your own words, please show us in the post where MichaelW said:
ALL Palestinians must suffer - including orphans and the infirm - because of the actions of some Palestinians.
 
Written By: Steverino
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MK, I missed where in that article it says how many orphans were killed in the Israeli "raids". Is that in there somewhere? Surely they brutally slaughtered civilian children. Maybe with their rifle butts? Followed by eating the children like said children are taught in said orphanages?

Your obtuseness is palpable.

 
Written By: rob
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I was responding to a post that said ALL Palestinians must suffer.
That is a LIE. A lie that is typical of you, MK. The quote you responded to was:
To all Palestinians I offer you the fervent hope you get just what you deserve!
If you want to interpet that to mean
Looks like they are. Do wonder, though, why it is ok to not only wish harm against all Palestinians, including the sick, the hungry, and the orphans, but to actually carry it out.
Then that is your problem. Don’t put meaning to words that aren’t there.
 
Written By: SShiell
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"Well I’m putting the Palestinians into the same boat as the Germans 1933-45,"

And both the Germans and the Palestinians have the same options; cooperate with the Nazis/Hezbollah , or speak out and be killed, perhaps along with your family. You could also put them in the same boat with the Vietnamese, Cubans, or any number of other places. Not an enviable situation.


"I’m more than willing to bet that Hamas is DELIBERATELY using them as cover for their activities."

Probably not as actual physical locations where they plot, hide weapons, etc. That would be counterproductive. More likely just to build public support and sympathy, just as the Communists did in various places. It is a no-win situation for Israel (not to mention the Palestinians); let the charitable functions continue and people will be grateful to and support Hezbollah, close them down and the people will resent the Israelis for depriving them of these services and still support Hezbollah.
 
Written By: timactual
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And both the Germans and the Palestinians have the same options; cooperate with the Nazis/Hezbollah , or speak out and be killed, perhaps along with your family. You could also put them in the same boat with the Vietnamese, Cubans, or any number of other places. Not an enviable situation.
You mean VOTING for Hamas wasn’t a choice? JUST LIKE THE NAZIS hamas was clear about its policy preferences. The Palestinains, in Gaza, brought this on themselves.
Probably not as actual physical locations where they plot, hide weapons, etc.
No, EXACTLY as these things...it happened in Iraq in the Second Gulf War and in OIF, the regime DELIBERATELY chose to place military tafrgets in, on, or nnext to sites of humanitarian or archeological value figuring that Western forces wouldn’t have the stones to attack them and if they did they’d get propaganda mileage from it. Tim, I think you might profitably read up on the 20th C. history of totalitarian propaganda and actions, there’s pretty much NOTHING that a suitably motivated set of folks won’t say or do.
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
"You mean VOTING for Hamas wasn’t a choice? "

Maybe yes, maybe no. There have been elections where voting is mandatory, and the voting choices are not secret. And the Palestinian vote for Hamas, like the German vote for the Nazis, was not unanimous. Not that elections matter when it comes to who runs the place.



"it happened in Iraq "

So? And even if they do, the important point is the effect of the charitable efforts on public opinion.

" there’s pretty much NOTHING that a suitably motivated set of folks won’t say or do."

I didn’t say they are too moral to do such a dastardly thing, I am merely saying they probably won’t because it isn’t worth it. Arms can be hidden and plotting can be done in many places, so why jeopardize your agitprop apparat? Still, it would not surprise me if they did.
 
Written By: timactual
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You mean VOTING for Hamas wasn’t a choice? "
Maybe yes, maybe no. There have been elections where voting is mandatory, and the voting choices are not secret. And the Palestinian vote for Hamas, like the German vote for the Nazis, was not unanimous. Not that elections matter when it comes to who runs the place.
Well like the Nazi’s the Palestinians are paying for their choices...In this case it’s WORSE than the Nazi’s, because the Nazi’s only captured about 1/3 of the German vote, Hamas took the MAJORITY of the vote. 50% and 1, at least, voted for Hamas. I should feel sorry, why?
"it happened in Iraq "
So? And even if they do, the important point is the effect of the charitable efforts on public opinion.
So your point would be, "it’s OK if they launch rockets from the kindergarten, because the rest of the time they’re training kids." OK, let me lob a few Qassams at YOUR house from the local kinder-care joint, get back to me on whether the value to the children outweighs the value to YOU of a safe house...this is about ISRAEL, dude, Hamas is using civilians to attack ISRAEL, Israel is looking out for ITS citizens, not the citizens of Fatah Land or Hamastan...
" there’s pretty much NOTHING that a suitably motivated set of folks won’t say or do."
I didn’t say they are too moral to do such a dastardly thing, I am merely saying they probably won’t because it isn’t worth it. Arms can be hidden and plotting can be done in many places, so why jeopardize your agitprop apparat? Still, it would not surprise me if they did.
Because it is SEAMLESS, this IS their agitprop apparatus. "Look those nasty Zionists destroyed an orphanage!" Yeah an orphanage you were using as a military post, and then can become a cause celebre...it’s not either/or its Both.

And so you’re not surprised they’re doing, but you criticize ISRAEL!? Isn’t that like saying I’m not surprised Ted Bundy killed those womyn, but why did they get in the car with him? So it’s OK for Hamas to be vicious thugs, but Israel is supposed to take it? Because kindergartens and orphanages are TOO IMPORTANT to the social structure of Hamastan? Interesting point...when the Bloods and the Crips are using the local kinder-care as a gang hide-out and they are burglarizing YOUR house get back to me on how you feel about, "I’m not surprised, but even so there ought to be no reaction."


 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
I didn’t say that. Where did I say that? Show me. Show me where I said that.
MK, I have a 4 year old who makes better arguments. I’ve said it a lot recently, you’ve lost your touch.
 
Written By: meagain
URL: http://
As usual, when challenged to back up his claims, MK beats a hasty retreat.
 
Written By: Steverino
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"So your point would be,..."

No.

"but you criticize ISRAEL!?"

??? No.
 
Written By: timactual
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You sure got a lot of prevarication and "yeah buts" in there then....
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
"Definitions of prevarication on the Web:
lie: a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth
equivocation: intentionally vague or ambiguous
lying: the deliberate act of deviating from the truth"

Assuming your remark is addressed to me, I trust you will understand if I take exception to it.
 
Written By: timactual
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