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September 30th, a day that will live in insanity
Posted by: McQ on Friday, August 01, 2008

Anyone know what happens in 94 days?

Yup - the national election.

Anyone know what happens in 60 days?

Well yeah, lots of things probably, but one which might be considered more important than many others if the person happens to be interested in politics.

In 60 days, 34 days before election-day, the Congressional ban on offshore drilling as well as oil shale exploitation expires.

Note the word: "expires" - like in it goes away unless Congress votes to extend it. So if October 1st shows up with no action, the ban is gone, no longer in effect, kaput.

Which brings us to the politics of this thing and I'm very interested in your thoughts as to how this will go down.

We know that an increasing majority of Americans have tossed their environmental concerns under the bus and are clamoring for Congress to lift the ban and allow drilling. In fact, polls show anywhere from 55% to 75% want to see us busily engaged in bringing more oil and gas into the system.

We know that increases in gas prices immediately effect every person in America by taking a bigger bite out of their paycheck. And the same person realizes that if it takes more out of their pockets, it takes more out of the pockets of those from whom they buy necessities as well. So higher fuel equals higher costs all around.

We know that one of the primary planks on which Congressional Democrats ran on in 2006 was a promise to bring gas prices down. Instead they're up over a $1 a gallon and Republicans are not being shy about reminding everyone about this.

We know, and it will most likely be especially true in this next month, that Congressional members are under increasing pressure to "do something" about it.

We also know that Obama and Pelosi (Reid is wavering badly, which is not unexpected from Mr. Courage under Fire) are unalterably opposed to opening up the OTC or anything else.

That brings us to September 30th.

Something is or isn't going to happen that day.

My questions:

Do you think Democrats will quietly let it expire as a way of saving face (i.e. not having to vote to allow more drilling)?

Do you think some Democrats will insist on a vote to allow it to expire so they can go on record as being for drilling?

Do you think Pelosi, et. al, will come up with a scheme where they vote to let it expire if a number of key compromises and accommodations are given to Democrats (and will Bush veto it if they do?)?

What do you think the likely scenario for that day will be and how will it play out?
 
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I think the second it is mentioned that there should be a vote, every since Republican should push for such a vote.

And badger Sen Obama into voting and making a stand, proving what he stands for...

And then SLAM him. He either fotes against drilling, and is fscked for being against what the majority of the country is for, or he votes for drilling and is fscked for going back on his "firm belief"...

This is, frankly, brilliant...

34 days before the election? He’ll be hosed. Utterly hosed.
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Hint?
Obama shifts on offshore oil drilling
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D929O8KG0&show_article=1
found it here
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/now-obama-thinks-offshore-drilling-isnt.html
 
Written By: Paul
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Pelosi et al will wait until September 30 to do nothing.

The result .. the ban will end .. the Democrats will not be on record voting either way so they can blame the Republicans no matter .. saying they would have voted either way depending on the audience of the day.

Simply they will act like politicians (i.e. "I’m a politician which means I’m a cheat and a liar, and when I’m not kissing babies I’m stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open").

If the Congressional Republicans want to keep this alive as a November "issue", I suggest they force it to a vote before Sept 30 else it will become moot.
 
Written By: Neo
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I don’t know what will happen but this is the most interesting thing since "Who killed J.R.". I know that goes right over most people’s head. Just shows you how long since people last got this interested.
 
Written By: Roy Lofquist
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The claim will be "Most Democrats will vote for renewal". But magically just enough will vote against it that it will fail.

They’ll get out their maps of which districts yield the most environmental campaign dollars and which districts would see the most benefit for that democrat voting against renewal. After weighting seats vs. campaign cash they determine who gets to vote against renewal.

The loss of the vote will be spun as a mix Republican trickery and Blue Dog Democrats trying to keep their seats in those god fearing gun toting states.
 
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Here’s what I am wondering first. The ban is on DOI using funds related to leasing in the areas I presume are defined. The ban was in the DOI Appropriations bill. So, I’m thinking the ban is attached to those monies. If they have an extra $30M in excess monies from 2008 on Oct 1, they still can’t spend that to kick start the leasing in those areas.

Now, the question is where is 2009 DOI appropriations legislation now. That will give a hint to what the Dems have planned. Next. What happens if they don’t fund DOI, because it is stuck in committee or something. Well they can’t really just not fund DOI, so, maybe, since it is stuck in committee they go with a Continuing Resolution on funding at 2008 levels. If they do that, will it extend the moratorium?

Do they think they can get to January?

I’ve got no clue whether much of that is reasonable, but that’s not stopped the Dems before and I wouldn’t put it past them to try.
 
Written By: Dusty
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pelosi and Reid will play it absolutely wrong as is possible, the GOP will get their way regardless. Obama makes waffles and sides with them
 
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