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Obama’s VP
Posted by: MichaelW on Monday, August 18, 2008

So who do you think it's gonna be?

Personally, I'm thinking Tim Kaine because it makes sure that Virginia is in play. Biden and Richardson bring much needed foreign policy experience, although there are rumors that Richardson has a philandering issue that keeps him off the ballot. Michelle Obama is an interesting pick simply because, as possibly the only political team more caught up in their own celebrity than the Clintons (which is saying something), it would give real meaning to "We are the president."

So have at it.
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I wouldn’t be shocked if he did a big head fake and picked Hillary, though, I doubt he will. He’d be overshadowed his entire term(s) if they won. With all the "white guy on the dollar bill" rhetoric around he can’t pick some old white dude...but I hope he picks Biden or one better would be Kerry.
Written By: markm
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Hillary would be the best and worst choice.

It would be like adding another whole freight train to Obama’s own considerable freight train.

Does Kaine really assure that Obama wins Virginia? I doubt it.

Bill Richardson would make it a "people of color" v. "people of pallor" contest, but then you have Bill Richardson a hearbeat away from the presidency, which would really test the nerves.

Evan Bayh has the advantage of being a former governor. He’ll help win Indiana, for sure, and that’s usually a red state. He’ll also appeal to Ohioans.

And it helps that he’s the very opposite (in Democratic Party terms) of a creep like the buffoon mentalist, so that would bring some balance (in Democratic Party terms) to the ticket.

If Obama wants to do full justice to his McGovernite lineage he’ll choose Wesley Clark, who is a good match for Tom Eagleton, though I think that Eagleton was a bit more level-headed.

I’ll go with Bayh. He doesn’t excite, but he does reassure. Kaine doesn’t excite or reassure. Richardson is too goofy and would imply that Obama is attempting an anti-white campaign (he’d be rushing the eventual Democratic plan). Hillary would be like a marriage between two wings of the Borgia family.

And there should be another poll to go alongside this one: Will the Clintons make a move on Obama at the convention? Would anyone be surprised?
Written By: Martin McPhillips
I don’t think Bayh helps him in Indiana. While we like our moderate Democrats, most of us hate liberals, and Chicago liberals with a passion. There’s no big gain to be made from picking him here. Plus the negative association with Bayh’s wife being on a bunch of corporate boards, which is making her millions, isn’t going to sell well.

I think the convention will be down and dirty. Committed Hillary delegates aren’t going to vote for Obama.
Written By: Keith_Indy
Keith makes a good point: VP picks made to help in a given state usually don’t.

I should have stayed with the appeal Bayh would have as a reassuring moderate nationally.

By the way, I think that McCain should* pick Petraeus as his running mate.

Aside from the fact that Petraeus ensures that national security is in good hands if something happens to McCain, he also turns the former mess in Iraq into a positive.

* Should, if Petraeus is a conservative on the life issues and a free-marketeer.
Written By: Martin McPhillips
If Michelle is picked (and neither officialy changes their residence), say goodbye to Illinois’s 21 Electoral Votes.

Obama’s not THAT confident ... is he?!?
Written By: SaveFarris
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What’s your issue with Richardson? I know he made some odd comments during the primary, but I assume he was just trying to appeal to the luntatic base.

Richardson, from what I know, is a moderate Clinton Democrat. Reasonably free market and pro gun. With solid executive experience in New Mexico and the Clinton administration.

Also, while his mother is hispanic, I don’t have any indication he is some sort of reconquesta type; in fact I understand his policy in NM included solid border enforcement . . .
Written By: Don
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By the way, I think that McCain should* pick Petraeus as his running mate.
Well, Petraeus does have more actual executive experience than McCain, but I’d like to see McCain pick someone with more of a buisness/governor (and free market) type of background. I think Petraeus brings strengths mcCain already has.
Written By: Don
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Does Kaine really assure that Obama wins Virginia? I doubt it.
It’s not a done deal, but I’m sure that the Obama campaign believes having the Virginia Governor on the ticket will help his chances there. I think the logic is simply that if all the voters who elected Kaine Governor vote to elect Obama as President, then Virginia should go for Obama.
What’s your issue with Richardson? I know he made some odd comments during the primary, but I assume he was just trying to appeal to the luntatic base.
I’m not sure what Martin’s issue is, but there’s been speculation that Richardson doesn’t want to be exposed to the scrutiny of his personal life that being a VP candidate entails. From Bob Shrum’s book about the Kerry candidacy:
Johnson had compiled a list of about twenty-five "serious" candidates—and some others besides—and we reviewed it in his living room. In addition to Edwards, Clinton, and Gephardt, it included New Mexico governor Bill Richardson and some "out-of-the-box" choices, like Nebraska’s maverick Republican senator Chuck Hagel, a kind of McCain surrogate. Hagel, who I guessed wouldn’t accept and didn’t know his name was on the list, was a nonstarter because he had a zero rating from the League of Conservation Voters. Richardson’s prospects were shadowed by alleged womanizing. Publicly reluctant, he coveted the publicity of being considered, but withdrew before the process was finished.
Perhaps the "odd comments" were just self-sabotage to take his candidacy out of play? That sounds a bit dramatic, but who knows.
Written By: MichaelW
I thought we now lived in an era where womanizing was accepted. At least among Democrats.
Written By: Don
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What’s my issue with Richardson?

He’s pretty damn stupid. And I mean that outside of the stupidity so easily locatable in politicians in general. Richardson strikes me as independently stupid.

As for Petraeus, I’m from (using an approach to the NFL draft metaphor) the "pick the best available athlete" school not the "pick someone who fills a position you’re weak at" school. And Petraeus is a far superior athlete to any of the position players.

One of the things that has to (should) guide McCain’s choice is that at this moment in history he has to be thinking about someone who can become the next Republican nominee, someone with stature. Petraeus has stature.

Mitt Romney has none, for instance. He has the affect of a game show host. Some conservatives were really enthusiastic about him because they detest McCain, but Romney did nothing in the primaries. I don’t understand the enthusiasm. He also created a "universal health care" system in Massachusetts that is a dog. I find that "accomplishment" very irritating.

For business experience McCain can get some of that when he nominates people for Treasury Secretary and the Council of Economic Advisers.

I think the logic is simply that if all the voters who elected Kaine Governor vote to elect Obama as President, then Virginia should go for Obama.
I don’t think that it works that way. Voters make a considered choice for one of the two presidential candidates. They don’t simply reproduce the vote they made for the VP candidate when he ran for something in their state. Remember that Al Gore lost Tennessee in 2000. Kerry/Edwards lost North Carolina in 2004 (though the truth is that Edwards probably would have lost a bid for re-election to the Senate if he had run again).
Written By: Martin McPhillips
So who do you think it’s gonna be?
Written By: Is
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I think Obama should nominate Kucinich. This would lock up his loony Left base and allow Obama to move toward the center.


Plus, thing about the pics of Michelle and Mrs Kucinich together.
Written By: jorgxmckie
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