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"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow"
Posted by: MichaelW on Monday, September 01, 2008

Have you seen your mother, baby, standing in the shadow?
Have you had another, baby, standing in the shadow?
I'm glad I opened your eyes
The have-nots would have tried to freeze you in ice

The Rolling Stones, 1966

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People tend to forget that roller coasters are thrilling because they're scary and have the potential to make you puke. In that sense, Sarah Palin's VP nod is a thrill-a-minute.

After the exhilarating ride to the top of the first climb, we now learn that Palin's 17 year-old daughter is five months pregnant (miraculously after having a baby just four months ago). Although this was apparently known by many, the news is simply too much juicy innuendo for some to handle. According to at least one commenter here at QandO, "LOL! The Palin choice is exploding in the face of the GOP, and proving McCain utterly incompetent. Wow. This is so funny!"

Um, yeah. That's what it is. "Funny."

And although The One Himself declared Bristol's pregnancy off-limits (to his credit, and consistency), his followers have sinned chosen a different path [HT: Hot Air]:
Clinton Wray and his family sat among the 14,000 who gathered to hear Obama speak in Milwaukee this evening. While he supported Obama’s decision to, in Wray's words, “take the higher ground”, he was not convinced the pregnancy is irrelevant. “Republicans will say that they are the party of family values and that everybody else doesn’t have any values. So when you’ve used that, I think the public and the media have the right to use whatever you’ve put out to come back to you.”

Wray added that this applied to Palin too. ”This young lady is saying that she’s a strong conservative with Christian values. That’s great. But the Republican party has consistently used the religious right to say ‘we’re Christians,’ to say ‘we don’t believe in this and we don’t believe in that.’ And so I think they have to be held accountable…. She has to be held accountable.”


On the downside of the rise, with stomachs riding uncomfortably inside throats, the roller coaster seems dangerous to Republican electoral victory. Yet, those funding the ride don't seem upset about the choice of coaster, and the people whom some on the left thought would be most discouraged by this latest twist are apparently not the least bit fazed:
Dr. James C. Dobson of Focus on the Family issued the following statement:

"In the 32-year history of Focus on the Family, we have offered prayer, counseling and resource assistance to tens of thousands of parents and children in the same situation the Palins are now facing. We have always encouraged the parents to love and support their children and always advised the girls to see their pregnancies through, even though there will of course be challenges along the way. That is what the Palins are doing, and they should be commended once again for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances.

"Being a Christian does not mean you're perfect. Nor does it mean your children are perfect. But it does mean there is forgiveness and restoration when we confess our imperfections to the Lord. I've been the beneficiary of that forgiveness and restoration in my own life countless times, as I'm sure the Palins have.

"The media are already trying to spin this as evidence Gov. Palin is a 'hypocrite,' but all it really means is that she and her family are human. They are in my prayers and those of millions of Americans."
Indeed, some pundits are predicting that this is nothing but more evidence that the track will yet rise in evermore thrilling configurations that excite the base and keep the money spigots open:
In addition to making the pro-life, religious right happy, Levy says, "it appeals to the average, working-class woman.” Those women, Levy says, are “tired of hearing guys questioning the experience of the governor of Alaska who, geez, if she hadn’t taken time out to raise five kids, might be president of the United States already.”
Of course, maybe this is just one of those people who reach for the sky every time the acme is reached, hoping to enhance the adrenaline rush of the downslope. Maybe he's just trying to get the most out careening downhill at breakneck pace. Yet, the very people who are generally considered to abhor such roller coaster rides when it comes to political candidates are rallying around the Governor and her daughter:
Republicans rallied around newly named vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin Monday after the Alaska governor revealed that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant.

After days of rumors about the Palin family swirling around the blogosphere and press, the campaign of presumed GOP nominee John McCain released a two-paragraph statement from Palin and her husband Todd saying, “We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents.” The Palins said Bristol had their “unconditional love and support.”

Social conservative leaders and delegates at the party’s national convention in St. Paul, Minn., praised Bristol Palin’s decision to carry the pregnancy to term and to marry a man identified only as Levi.

They said they view the situation as confirmation that the elder Palin understands the challenges faced by American families, and they applauded McCain for choosing Palin anyway. A McCain aide said the Arizona senator knew about Bristol Palin’s situation before selecting her mother as running mate but declined to say specifically when McCain found out.

“I’m very, very pleased that her daughter has chosen to carry the baby to full term. It shows a commitment to pro-life values,” said Linda Hansen, a Wisconsin delegate and the mother of five children. “It helps people who are going through hard times to identify. It’s not a great thing, but they’re just handling it with class.”

The revelation of her daughter’s pregnancy reinforced Palin’s place as the central conversation piece of a convention that has been truncated and overshadowed by Hurricane Gustav, which pummeled the Gulf Coast on Monday.

Her surprise selection has energized conservative activists, and news of Bristol’s pregnancy appeared to do little to dampen that enthusiasm. Indeed, Bristol’s decision to keep her baby immediately became an article of faith for many Republicans.

Several of the nation’s most prominent social conservatives — some of whom are ardent supporters of abstinence-only sex education — were among the first and most fervent advocates for Palin on Monday.

“Mistakes are made, and when that happens, the important thing is to love that daughter,” said Gary L. Bauer, a 2000 presidential candidate who heads an organization called American Values.

“Fortunately, Bristol is following her mother and father’s example of choosing life in the midst of a difficult situation,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins. “We are committed to praying for Bristol and her husband-to-be and the entire Palin family as they walk through a very private matter in the eyes of the public.”
It's almost as if they seem to know that, despite the rigorous ride through unexpected twists and turns, in the end there is just a smooth coasting to the finish line.

The point is, although Bristol's pregnancy should not matter in the least to the current presidential election, it will to those who have no principles whatsoever. Perhaps to those salivating over the potential political opportunity Bristol's pregnancy offers, the shadows should shroud the young mother (and her own mother) in hate and pain. But the reality is that life goes on, and this isn't the first or last time that new life has presented itself at a less-than-optimal moment.

What truly makes these situations a shame are the choices made thereafter. Bristol, with the support of her family, decided to take responsibility for herself and her child. Far from shameful, that is commendable. And it is a choice that will redound to the benefit of her mother.

So, congratulations to you, Bristol. You are in for an incredible ride of your own, and I wish you and your fiancé all the best. With the love and strength of your family, who knows? Maybe your baby will grow up to run for President one day.

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Have you seen your mother, baby, standing in the shadow?
Have you had another baby, standing in the shadow?
You take your choice at this time
The brave old world or the slide to the depths of decline
 
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The support for Mrs. Palin’s daughter is always couched in terms of ’forgiveness’ and ’love’; the opposition to Mrs. Palin is always couched in hate; full of some kind of dark glee at a teen pregnancy for the daughter of a conservative, devoted mother.

Didn’t Drew Carey establish the grounds of his libertarianism to be "forgiveness and love"? Sounds very Christian, but then Islam’s "compassion and mercy" resonates with libertarianism, as does a secular philosophy’s "tolerance and understanding."

Well, in any case, the best to young Ms. Palin, and to her mother, too.

 
Written By: a Duoist
URL: http://www.duoism.org
That’s what it is. "Funny."
You’re missing the point. We are now seeing radical social conservatives insist that having having a child at 17, out of wedlock and while still in high school is, somehow, a "traditional family value."

That is definitely funny. It’s beyond funny. It’s hilarious to the nth degree.

This is not about the Palins. It’s about those who are tying themselves into knots to try to make the story work for them rather than humiliate them.

Palin is qualified? That’s funny.

Palin is more qualified than Obama? That’s funny.

The Bristol situation exemplifies conservative values? That’s funny.

Etc.
 
Written By: KipEsquire
URL: http://www.kipesquire.net
How would the left defend it if this was Obama’s kid?

Did the right trash Cheney’s lesbian daughter, or was it the left that tried to use that as ammunition (pathetically) against those on the right.

But, don’t listen to me little lefties, keep hammering away at this, after all you do feel morally superior so you must be. Remember that all attacks are relevent in this world of politics we live in, and none ever have unintended consequences.....
 
Written By: John
URL: http://
Kip,
You’re missing the point
Hmm, you might want to look in the mirror.
We are now seeing radical social conservatives insist that having having a child at 17, out of wedlock and while still in high school is, somehow, a "traditional family value."
No we aren’t. What we are seeing is "radical social conservatives" insisting that an unwed teen having a baby — instead of an abortion — and having her family support her is a reflection of "traditional family" values. That’s nothing new from them, despite your attempt to twist it.
rather than humiliate them.
Why should anyone be humiliated? Believe it or not, even social conservatives understand that teenagers make mistakes. You are busy laughing at your own strawman.
Palin is qualified? That’s funny.

Palin is more qualified than Obama? That’s funny.
Palin and Obama are both technically qualified for office. And they’re both minimally qualified by normal standards. But Obama isn’t running for VP, he’s running for president. He doesn’t get to serve as an understudy for someone far more qualified. His lack of experience will be a factor as soon as he is elected, whereas Palin’s will not — unless McCain dies soon after being elected. What’s funny is someone that can’t understand that having a barely qualified president is a much greater risk than a minimally qualified vice president.
 
Written By: David C.
URL: http://
Bristol’s pregnancy is not the issue at all. So much is being found out about her background and incompetence that even a pro would have trouble handling it — and she’s a novice on the big stage. Most importantly, she is being defined by the Democrats on a variety of fronts, and after a curious "wow a pretty new face" reaction, she’s getting trashed on multiple fronts. I am sympathetic to her, but McCain proved himself utterly incompetent in his first "Presidential" decision, chosing someone not fully vetted, someone he only talked to once for a short time, going on the gut, and not really taking the time to think it over. She’s in way over her head. McCain should be the one punished for making such an incmopetent decision.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Oh, and David C: Obama is far more qualified than Palin. She got a nondescript journalism degree at Northern Idaho, served only in small town councils before suddenly becoming governor of Alaska — seen by many newspapers in her state as incompetent for that role. Obama graduated Harvard Law school, was the first black head of the Harvard Law Review, worked in inner city Chicago to help people before going into state politics for nearly a decade, and three years in the Senate. He’s far more qualified than her. Not only that, but McCain is in his seventies, has had cancer, and could be incapacitated or killed even early in his Presidency. Do we want to risk the nation with this untested, unvetted, unqualified person who is suddenly chosen by McCain because, well, maybe her was charmed by her in their one, short conversation? McCain is toast. This was the most disastrous decision he could make — his first "Presidential" decision. But hey, stay in denial if you want. But the heat is on, and it’s only going to get hotter.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Is Scott Erb really serious with his comments? Maybe the far, far left like Erb think they have defined her, but they haven’t. They are simply defining her in their own echo chamber and thinking it is a national consensus.

Now, Erb has claimed that Palin is in over head. Given her record, that seems to be her approach: shoot high and make it work. So, what does a guy like Erb say when she does well and destroys someone like Biden in the debate. Does a guy like Erb, reevaluate his position? That is doubtful. If Palin does well and brings along the blue collar workers in Pa, and WV., will Erb believe that McCain was "brilliant" and Obama pedestrian with his choice of Biden? I doubt it.

Notice, too, how Erb lays it on in the second post. First, we get the "credentials aren’t good enough... go with Harvard". He claims she is "seen by many newspapers in her state as incompetent for that role". OK, which newspapers? Why, too, would Palin have such high polling numbers in the face of media opposition? Erb doesn’t say. In fact, it seems the question hasn’t even occurred to him. Erb offers a continuing example of "contempt prior to investigation" (unless Kos and DU constitutes his idea of investigation. Now that is contemptible).

Erb ends with some standard left wing fear mongering. In the end, these two post say a lot more about Erb and his tribal academic outlook than it does about Palin. No wonder academia is held in such low regard. Erb reinforces that point with these shallow posts.

Rick
 
Written By: Rick Caird
URL: http://
Palin is qualified? That’s funny.

Palin is more qualified than Obama? That’s funny.


The votes don’t count if you keep saying "nuh-uh" to them.
 
Written By: Jim Treacher
URL: http://jimtreacher.com
Erb, you kill me.

Give me the significant piece of legislation that Obama pushed through... Oh there isn’t any

Give us what the consequences of his time as a community organizer where... Oh yeah, the files are locked and and any records that are available show it to be a miserable failure

What law review articles did he write at Harvard Law Review .. Again zero, zip, nada

Obama sounds good on paper until you actually review his record and realize that there isn’t anything there except for his being black.

Palin was in public life for 5 more years than Obama

Palin ran against an incumbent of her own party (the bridge to nowhere crowd), beat him and went on to win as governor.

Palin ran a government with an 80% approval rating versus Obama’s democratoc lead congress which has an approval rating 10% less than W.

Palin’s government duties include dealing more with foreign governments (Russia for god’s sakes, and Canada). She has negotiated international treaties.

You lefties will believe anything.
 
Written By: capt joe
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Erb, put down the stimulants and back away.
Nothing cranked up that loud lasts for long.
 
Written By: Bithead
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Hey Scott, guess what? To many of us here in flyover country, appalled at the tendentious left wing legal crap which has come out of places like Harvard Law Review, Obama’s training there is a cause for alarm.

An even worse recommendation is his involvement in Chicago politics, long considered one of the most corrupt Democrat Party machines around.

The truth is that McCain and Biden both have foreign policy experience which Obama and Palin lack, But Palin is the only one of the four with any real executive experience.
 
Written By: kyleN
URL: http://impudent.blognation.us/blog
Oh, and David C: Obama is far more qualified than Palin
No, he isn’t. He’s barely qualified and so is she. And again, he’s running for president, not vp. The level of qualifications needed for president is much more important than for vp. VPs have no actual duties beyond breaking a tie in the Senate and attending ceremonial events — unless the president gives them other responsibilities.
Not only that, but McCain is in his seventies, has had cancer, and could be incapacitated or killed even early in his Presidency
True, but the odds are still good that he’ll make it thru his first term just fine.
Do we want to risk the nation with this untested, unvetted, unqualified person
No one who says that about Palin should even think about voting for Obama, unless they have no logical consistency.
McCain is toast.
We’ll see. I’ve thought all along that Obama was the favorite, given the current political climate. But I remember hearing plenty of people who thought that Kerry was a lock to win in 2004 also. People have a tendency to jump to conclusions any time any event takes place during the campaign. Palin may still end up as a net positive for McCain.
 
Written By: David C.
URL: http://
this is bs where are the morals and consistency from the GOP? where is the practice what you preach? if obamas kid was pregnant the right wing media would be all over it playing "whos that babys daddy." but when its a "good christan white girl the excuess start flying out and the GOP spin machine comes out.
 
Written By: slntax
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no logical consistency
A more susinct discription of Erb I have not seen...
if obamas kid was pregnant the right wing media would be all over it playing "whos that babys daddy." but when its a "good christan white girl the excuess start flying out and the GOP spin machine comes out.
But it’s OK for the left to attack the Palins?

Why ever would it then be WRONG if (and not, you have only the hypothetical to use here) for the Right to do the same to the Obamas?
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
URL: http://
Sometimes, the best whisper campaign is just that... a whisper.

The Left would do well to just leave this tidbit alone and let the fact seep into the minds of voters and do what it will.
If they continue to hammer the fact, it will no doubt draw sympathy. Especially from parents who know that, despite their best efforts, sometimes teenagers make mistakes.

And I also believe that to be an effective strategy for all of Palin’s shortcomings. Youth, inexperience, risk, ect. would be most effective from a drip line, not a gusher.

One of Palin’s best attributes to the McCain campaign is her familiar biography. Not that everyone rises to be a governor, but that she is a young, attractive mother of five balancing work and family. Too much aggression from her opponents will feed an anger from those who can relate to her story.

I would also caution her supporters as well. If they continue to highlight her youth and inexperience in comparison to Obama’s youth and inexperience, it might turn this campaign from a McCain/Palin to a Palin/McCain.
And with such a short time between now and election day, the voters might not learn enough about Palin to become comfortable to vote for her.

IMHO, of course.

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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"They have to be held accountable"

1) The irony that a man named CLINTON is saying that makes me laugh and milk shot out my nose at the sheer sheel-like stupidity

2) As far as I can see, Bristol Palin IS being accountable here. She’s getting married, and KEEPING the baby, as opposed to taking the liberal option and getting the procedure.
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
You’re missing the point. We are now seeing radical social conservatives insist that having having a child at 17, out of wedlock and while still in high school is, somehow, a "traditional family value."
I think you’re missing the point, Kip, because I haven’t seen anyone making that argument. What’s being lauded is the decision to keep the baby, get married, and deal with the difficult situation as a family.
... McCain proved himself utterly incompetent in his first "Presidential" decision, chosing someone not fully vetted, someone he only talked to once for a short time, going on the gut, and not really taking the time to think it over.
She was fully vetted.
Sarah Palin’s path to the Republican ticket started with her name on a list _ and a team of some 25 people poring through public records searching for trouble spots without her knowledge. Then came the 70-question survey and a nearly three-hour interview.

The review officially ended Thursday, when John McCain asked the Alaska governor to be his running mate.

[...]

Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr., the lawyer who conducted the review, told The Associated Press in an interview Monday that Palin underwent a "full and complete" examination before McCain chose her. Asked whether everything that came up as a possible red flag during the review already has been made public, Culvahouse said: "I think so. Yeah, I think so. Correct."
Try again, Erb.
Obama is far more qualified than Palin.
Right, ’cus he went to "Hah-vahd"? The only thing Obama is more qualified to do than Palin is campaign, which he has done for most of his career. And let’s not forget that at least two of his election victories were sure-fire wins (running unopposed by getting everyone else thrown off the ballot, and then against Alan Keyes, a candidate from out-of-state). Not exactly sterling credentials.
Not only that, but McCain is in his seventies, has had cancer, and could be incapacitated or killed even early in his Presidency. Do we want to risk the nation with this untested, unvetted, unqualified person who is suddenly chosen by McCain because, well, maybe her was charmed by her in their one, short conversation?
By all means, let’s risk the nation with an untested, unvetted (Wright? Ayers? Dohrn? Rezko?), unqualified person right away. Why stand on the ceremony of waiting patiently for someone to die when we could have the greenhorn on day 1?
But the heat is on, and it’s only going to get hotter.
Um, what heat? So far it doesn’t seem to have hurt McCain in the least. The only ones caterwauling about all of this are tolerant lefties like yourself.
The Left would do well to just leave this tidbit alone and let the fact seep into the minds of voters and do what it will.
If they continue to hammer the fact, it will no doubt draw sympathy. Especially from parents who know that, despite their best efforts, sometimes teenagers make mistakes.
Bingo.
I would also caution her supporters as well. If they continue to highlight her youth and inexperience in comparison to Obama’s youth and inexperience, it might turn this campaign from a McCain/Palin to a Palin/McCain.
And with such a short time between now and election day, the voters might not learn enough about Palin to become comfortable to vote for her.
Also a good point. Palin’s inexperience is a weakness, not insurmountable, but something that must be dealt with in any case. Making too big a deal out of her foreign policy experience, for example, is probably not wise. Accepting that she’s still a little wet behind the ears and moving on to her strengths (fighting corruption, taking on the old-boy network in her own party, etc.) makes much more sense.
 
Written By: MichaelW
URL: http://qando.net
Gee, Erb is in love with a elite, hyper-educated doctrinnaire liberal while scoffing madly at the regular-person hick governor of an "unglamorous" state.

It just goes to worldview.

He’ll never EVER understand, and no amount of wasted bandwith on his blog will ever change that.



 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
"She got a nondescript journalism degree at Northern Idaho,"

I am sure your students will be happy to hear that their ’nondescript’ political science degree from cowflop college means they aren’t qualified. Perhaps you should discuss this with them.

"....He’s far more qualified than her."

Perhaps you can tell us why being a lawyer and being black makes him more qualified. Or are you still not ready to discuss?

Given the record of some of the highly placed graduates of so called elite colleges, perhaps having a ’nondescript’ degree isn’t so bad. Anyone who thinks that the mere possession of a degree from an ’elite’ school qualifies someone to do anything is a fool.


"chosing someone not fully vetted,"

John Kerry was fully vetted? Evidently the Democrats must be so out of touch with the American people that they didn’t think all his rabid antiwar activity was important.

 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Why bother guys, this is the same man that was here preaching about Iraq and the oncoming disaster a short 6 months ago. And it was the same drivel - newspaper opinions, opinions of foreign countries he’s in love with, etc.

As to the pregnancy - it’s the SECOND one guys remember?!!!!! DKos said so!

Being father of boys who have just cleared their teen years. I suspect a lot of the people (Scott!) getting a thrill out of this haven’t had teens.
Trust me, you can teach them to do all the right things, have ’values’, etc and guess what - they’re people just like us. They do right things and wrong things, they’re not little robots who do everything we want.

It takes a lot more intestinal fortitude to keep the baby than to take the easy way out. The girl, and her family, are accepting a burden, and as the parents of a family of 5, THEY know what they’re in for. Their choosing the harder path, much harder.

Finally - wouldn’t the Dem’s JUST LOVE it if she took the abortion route?
yeah, say it, you scumbags know that’s what you REALLY want.
Talk about hammering on her then.
 
Written By: looker
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Y’all are up to your necks in Kool-Aid. Who cares about her daughter? Shouldn’t you patriots of spending reform be more worried about the $30 million in earmarks she obtained for her town of 8,000 people? Or the fact that she ran a 527 group for Ted Stevens? Or that she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it?

The hypocrisy makes me want to puke. Exactly what reforms has Sarah Palin instituted in Alaska other than selling her jet? Her image of being a reformer is built on not being indicted... yet.

I’m forced to conclude that none of you give a da*n about your own issues. Sarah Palin is drenched in "pork" to go along with her mooseburgers.

Don’t act like you haven’t heard - it’s splashed all over memeorandum. What a bunch of hacks.
 
Written By: glasnost
URL: http://
Palin Derangement Syndrome continues to spread like wildfire
 
Written By: shark
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Jesus I hate humanity this week...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Bristol’s pregnancy is not the issue at all. I decree it. I know that’s the point of the post and all, but I have to drive this whole thread off in some other direction so I can sound wise and knowledgeable and keep harping again and again and again on all the things I like to say best, even though I’ve already said them many, many times.

So much is being found out about her background and incompetence that even a pro would have trouble handling it — and she’s a novice on the big stage. Yes, I said incompetence, though I really can’t point to anything that indicated incompetence. But by the holy principles of post-modernism, anyone who believes in conservative principles must by definition be incompetent. So she is. Suck on it.

Most importantly, she is being defined by the Democrats, via their wing in the mainstream media, on a variety of fronts, and after a curious "wow a pretty new face" reaction, she’s getting trashed on multiple fronts. I don’t care how much evidence you have to dispute that. I don’t care what the polls say. I don’t care what people at parties say, unless the parties are held in the faculty lounge. This election is over! It’s over, I tell you! It was over before Palin was the VP nominee, and it’s even MORE over now! Over, over, over! Now hng on a mnut whil I rplce m kybard bcas it wet wth spittl.

Now, that’s better. Anyway, I am sympathetic to her, but McCain proved himself utterly incompetent in his first "Presidential" decision, chosing someone not fully vetted. And Obama is not incompentent by choosing an insider plagarist gasbag, no sir! I decree it! Stop laughing!

She’s in way over her head. McCain should be the one punished for making such an incmopetent decision. And misspelling "incmopetent" in no way reflects my own incompetence. I’m totally competent! Even though I didn’t go to Harvard! Stop laughing!

Oh, and David C: Obama is far more qualified than Palin. She got a nondescript journalism degree at Northern Idaho, and we wise leftists know education trumps everything. She served only in small town councils before suddenly becoming governor of Alaska — seen by many newspapers in her state as incompetent for that role. No, I don’t actually read any of those newspapers, and I suppose all newspapers say uncomplimentary things about governors, especially Republican ones, but still, the fact that my brothers in the media, even in small town, and maybe having a journalist degree from somewhere beside Columbia, say she’s incompetent just proves it.

Obama graduated Harvard Law school, was the first black head of the Harvard Law Review, worked in inner city Chicago to help people before going into state politics for nearly a decade, and three years in the Senate. He’s far more qualified than her. Because by the holy principles of post-modernism, work and education like Obama’s automatically makes someone ready for leadership, while anything that happens out there in the extra-chromosome, backwoods, dentally-challenged part of the country where there’s no Starbucks within ten blocks just doesn’t mean anything.

Not only that, but McCain is in his seventies, has had cancer, and could be incapacitated or killed even early in his Presidency. Do we want to risk the nation with this untested, unvetted, unqualified person who is suddenly chosen by McCain because, well, maybe her was charmed by her in their one, short conversation? Wouldn’t it much better instead to have an untested, unvetted, unqualified person right out of the gate, because of his Harvard degree and his experience as a community organizer? Of course it would! Anyone should be able to see that. It’s obvious, don’t you see? McCain’s almost certainly going to die real soon, and we just can’t have a woman like Palin in there. Because seeing a strong, conservative woman like that in high office has a strong negative effect on the, umm, bedroom performance of we sensitive leftist males. You see, we’re so bothered by such an incompetent person that we can’t think about anything else, even pleasurable things. And it’s not because we’re intimidated by her, so just stop thinking that right now, do you hear?!? And stop laughing!

McCain is toast. I decree it. This was the most disastrous decision he could make — his first "Presidential" decision. It’s a disaster because we wise leftists with godlike powers of political science say it is, and you dense righties don’t get a vote.

But hey, stay in denial if you want. I’ve been in denial for years, and it’s really nice. Anyway, the heat is on, and it’s only going to get hotter. And you know those Kenyans handle the heat really well, so Obama is going to win.

And I am not either coming over here to comment because I have a compulsive need to draw attention to myself! Stop saying that! And stop laughing! Yes, I know I said I’d stay away until after the election, but... well, it’s just one special case after another where I need to correct you dense righties on something, and it’s not either a compulsion, I said, so stop saying it! Besides, if you dense righties would just come over and read my blog, which I am not either pimping over here, then I would get the attention I so richly deserve, and I wouldn’t have to come over here.
 
Written By: Ott Scerb
URL: http://clueless.maine.edu
Ah, Glasnost, at least you have substantive arguments!
I see all those earmark things as problem!
Unfortunately now we’ll have to measure her pork against the pork for Biden and Obama.
Should be interesting, no?

We can have a pork out.

But you are confused you see, this is about the attack on Palin because of her pregnant daughter...not exactly an issue of substance except for the Palin family (until the typical band of free thinking, open minded, forgiving and forward thinking pirates made it one....)
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
Who cares about her daughter?
The left-wing slime who are attacking her?
Shouldn’t you patriots of spending reform be more worried about the $30 million in earmarks she obtained for her town of 8,000 people? Or the fact that she ran a 527 group for Ted Stevens? Or that she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it? ... Exactly what reforms has Sarah Palin instituted in Alaska other than selling her jet? Her image of being a reformer is built on not being indicted... yet.
You obviously have a one-sided view, but at least you are raising legitimate political issues. You might try this article for more information on Palin’s record. She’s a politician and her record is mixed, but she definitely has a reformist streak. And as major politicians go, she’s about as much of an outsider as possible.
 
Written By: David C.
URL: http://
Exactly what reforms has Sarah Palin instituted in Alaska other than selling her jet
That’s 1 more reform than Obama....
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
She got a nondescript journalism degree at Northern Idaho
Hey, moron, it is the University of Idaho, which happens to be in northern Idaho. You say you teach at a university?
 
Written By: Linus
URL: http://
His image of being a reformer is built on not being indicted... yet.
Yes, Rezko and others so far but yes, not indicted yet.
 
Written By: capt joe
URL: http://
Palin seems like a tough customer normally. And now the left has riled her up by going after her daughter.

Man, she’s going to make you all pay
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Jeff Goldstein of Protien Wisdom gives what I think is the best explanation as to why the left, particularly the nutroots, are so gleefully off base:
Many on the left will believe, quite mistakenly, that such an announcement is likely to weaken Palin’s support among “the hard-right conservative base”. But in fact, it will do no such thing — first, because the “hard-right conservative base” that liberal Democrats consistently invoke is largely a caricature that lives only in their minds and as a convenient trope in their rhetoric, from whence it can be trotted out as a foil and a boogeyman on cue; and second, because those energized over the choice of Palin include many disaffected libertarians and classical liberals who were, until the announcement of the Governor’s candidacy, set to either sit the election out, or else cast a protest vote for Bob Barr.

That the Palin family — by dint of ugly rumor mongering from “progressive activists” and a compliant left-leaning press that was cynically situating itself to pretend that these rumors “needed investigating” — was all but compelled to release information about their teenage daughter, is precisely the kind of thing that drives real civil libertarians and privacy advocates crazy, especially because the information has nothing whatever to do with Governor Palin’s candidacy, but instead invades the privacy (and quite possibly affects the “choice”) of a minor.
Just look at Kip’s comments upthread.
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
Man, she’s going to make you all pay
The list of things I would rather do than face off against Gov. Baracuda is truly epic.

It would have to be, since pretty much everything else in the world is on that list. Seriously, there are less painful ways to commit suicide...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
URL: http://
All this & Hillary who?

It is to laugh.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
Palin is more qualified than Obama? That’s funny.
It happens to be true. A woman with executive experience and real accomplishments is more qualified than a man without either.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Don’t act like you haven’t heard - it’s splashed all over memeorandum. What a bunch of hacks.

Written By: glasnost
Go back to sucking Obama’s cock.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
McCain proved himself utterly incompetent in his first "Presidential" decision, chosing someone not fully vetted,
Scott Erb is on crack.

The Democrats choose — for president, not VP — a guy with no executive experience, no accomplishments, and close ties to radical leftists and terrorists.

This ticket is worse than the Democratic ’04 lier ticket.

 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Also a good point. Palin’s inexperience is a weakness, not insurmountable, but something that must be dealt with in any case. Making too big a deal out of her foreign policy experience, for example, is probably not wise. Accepting that she’s still a little wet behind the ears and moving on to her strengths (fighting corruption, taking on the old-boy network in her own party, etc.) makes much more sense.
She does lack experience. The interesting point is that she has more experience than the opposite parties presidential candidate, and unlike him, she has executive experience and real accomplishments.

 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Psst - Obama is finally breaking 50s in the polls:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

The tracking polls and an earlier CNN poll showed a slight McCain improvement right after the Palin pick. But that’s vanished and Obama is riding a wave. McCain has to stop that and get his own convention bounce if he is going to have a shot at not being Dole II.

BTW, Obama has a lot more experience than Palin, even if one does the silly attempt to claim "executive" experience *eyes rolling.* You guys are providing some election year amusement, but I really need to get back into lurk mode for now. This was just a reminder of the fun you miss when I don’t post ;-)
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
BTW, Obama has a lot more experience than Palin, even if one does the silly attempt to claim "executive" experience *eyes rolling.*
Palin and Obama have a similar amount of experience. But Palin has executive (including forign policy) experience, and real accomplishments.

Obama has no executive experience, and no accomplishents.

You lefties loose ’cause you roll your eye like that when someone says "executive experience". How often does the American people elect a president with no executive expereince? Certainly, men of the left—lawyers and professors—fail to grasp the importance of executive expereince and real accomplishments.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
What experience exactly?

 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Erb,

I also have to say—for a professor of poli sci, it must really suck to get things so wrong as your position on the Surge. I’m surpirsed your students haven’t tarred and feathered you for the obvious malpractice of arguing that John Kerry isn’t a lier and that Carter is an honorable man.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
I have an idea- maybe Bristol Palin can change her name to Chelsea Clinton, then anyone even thinking something crossways about her can be condemned by all of them at screech-owl decibels.
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Shark,

It was interesting that Obama was comparing his experience to Palin’s, and the experience he was flouting was his campaign managment. If he can’t come up with anything better than that, I doubt Erb will come up with anything of substance.

Erb will keep lying, like usual.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
"Erb, put down the stimulants and back away.
Nothing cranked up that loud lasts for long."
Eric wins the thread.
 
Written By: Billy Beck
URL: http://www.two—four.net/weblog.php
It was interesting that Obama was comparing his experience to Palin’s, and the experience he was flouting was his campaign managment.
What is more interesting is that he is comparing his experience to his opponents running mate.

I’m Barack Obama, vote for me because I’m more qualified than the other parties Vice Presidental candidate!
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
I’m Barack Obama, vote for me because I’m more qualified than the other parties Vice Presidental candidate!


And he fails at that . . .
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
War on terror
Russia going expansionist again
Economy issues
Energy woes

BUT A TEEN PREGNANCY IS THE NATIONAL CRISIS?!?!?

You have got to be pulling my leg
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
No shark, this is the forgiving, open minded, non judgemental, tolerant left that Erbie is always touting.

The only thing they’re missing is they’re not dressed as chubby ladies in flower print dresses with white gloves and little purses pointing surreptitiously at Palin’s daughter and covering their mouths with their hands while the whisper their tolerant non-judgemental gossip.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://

 
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