Please, keep it up media. Posted by: McQ
on Wednesday, September 03, 2008
How badly might all of this negativity about Gov. Palin backfire on the media and the Democrats? Well first look at the "sampler" of what passes for objective media analysis this week:
Here is a sampler of media comment on Governor Palin this week:
- Eleanor Clift, the McLaughlin Group: "If the media reaction is anything, it's been literally laughter in many places across newsrooms."
- Sally Quinn, Newsweek: "It is a political gimmick . . . I find it insulting to women, to the Republican party, and to the country."
- E.J. Dionne, Washington Post: "Palin is, if anything, less qualified for the vice presidency (and the presidency) than [Harriet] Miers was for the court. But there is one big difference: Palin passes all the right-wing litmus tests."
- Maureen Dowd, New York Times: "They have a tradition of nominating fun, bantamweight cheerleaders from the West."
- Ruth Marcus, Washington Post: "But as a parent in the media, I also know that the Palins assumed this risk. Anyone who watched coverage of the Bush twins' barroom exploits knew that the avert-your-eyes stance toward candidates' children has its limits."
- Charlie Cook, Beltway pundit, on PBS's "Charlie Rose": "I had a friend that had a young person tell them that they had three interviews to get a job as a server at Ruby Tuesday! So this is like putting a whole — for someone that hasn't played on a national — Geraldine Ferraro had more — Dan Quayle had undergone more scrutiny, had played on a bigger stage than this. This is putting an enormous risk on someone he didn't know. And he has to just pray that it works!"
Who was caught with their pants down around their ankles not knowing much of anything about a person who had been mentioned, seriously, as a prospective running mate for John McCain. It certainly wasn't the right - in fact most Republicans had hoped for such a pick.
No, it was the media. They had already figured the probable pick based on their stereotype of the Republicans. It had to be another white guy.
They were sure that the pick would probably come from someone well known in political circles and about whom they could whip up a diatribe at the drop of a hat. It wouldn't be some provincial governor and it certainly wouldn't be a woman. So Sarah Palin may have been a name on McCain's list that he treated seriously, but it certainly wasn't one the media (or Democrats) chose to take seriously.
So what's all the fuss about then? Well the disdain from the media is being fueled in part by the fact that they didn't do their job and, in fact, weren't prepared when Palin was named.
I think I know exactly why we’re hearing all this utter nonsense about how Palin supposedly wasn’t vetted.
The spoiled little children in the media are throwing a widdle tantrum because they weren’t kept in the loop.
So if they didn’t know anything about Sarah Palin, and if they didn’t expect McCain to pick Palin, then it stands to reason that McCain didn’t know anything about Sarah Palin, and McCain didn’t expect himself to pick her.
Guess what, media? Some of us had heard of Sarah Palin before, and were hoping that she was exactly who John McCain would pick.
Because the media paid no attention to her and knew nothing about her, the feeding frenzy is a natural result. So are all the so-called "negatives" coming out at once. They have too - as Paterico says, a person who was listed as a serious candidate for VP was virtually ignored by the media. Consequently, now that they have to scramble to cover her and everything that should have been known about her through the media and well prior to her nomination suddenly is coming to the fore.
And if the best that can be found is trooper-gate and hubby belonging to 3rd party and getting a DUI 20 years ago, well, let's face it, it ain't Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayres, is it?
Another part of the media disdain is plain old, every day, vanilla elitism. She went to school in Idaho for heaven sake. She's the governor of Alaska! She hunts!
No Welsley. No blue-blood, north-eastern family connections. Nope - a real, honest-to-goodness, no BS, mother of 5 who has faced down every problem that other mothers have faced (and, like her are still facing) and has still had time to do something outside of that and succeed wildly. The media can't have that because it breaks the stereotype so carefully nurtured of the "conservative woman". So with blinders fully in place, and completely ignoring how well they describe the top of the ticket on the Democratic side, they claim she's a lightweight, inexperienced and a diversity pick.
And they think the rest of us who hail from flyover land, and didn't attend elite universities or stake our lives in the mire of politics and Washington DC are just too damn dumb to recognize what's going on here.
All I can say is keep it up folks. You couldn't be a better ally for the Sarah Palin's of this world, because as you attempt to denigrate her accomplishments and minimize her experience, you clearly display your obvious bias while brilliantly backlighting the very same problems in Obama you claim hurt Palin.
And while you do that, we'll keep reminding you that if what you claim disqualifies the person who might be a heartbeat away from the presidency, what does it say about the glaring lack of even Palin's qualifications for he who would be president?
There’s been something I’ve been seeing beyond the normal partisan bias in the media.
Essentially there’s a brown-shirting of the Media. Primarily this has been taking place on blogs and websites. And with anonymous quality of the internet, that’s not that big a surprise. They have stepped it up though.
The problem is that this internet based brown-shirting is spilling over to the Mainstream Media. Initially it provided a medium to coalesce and propogate unfounded allegations. One person promoting an allegation doesn’t sound credible, but a hundred people promoting the same allegation gives an appearance of more crediblity.
But now, the elements of the MSM are not just biased reporters drinking from the same rumor trough, but full fledge brown-shirts themselves.
All this has happened before, its a question of severity.
I also don’t think real life widespread brown-shirts (sans uniform) are not really far behind.
Man in his 20s bombs the Capitol and the Pentagon: no issue, it’s in the past Man in his 20s gets a DUI: how could anyone who would spend time with this person be trusted with government office?
Minority with thin resume but other talents that make him popular with voters: most qualified and exemplary Presidential nomination ever Minority with thin resume but other talents that make her popular with voters: not qualified to wash the media’s shoes
I mean, I know that the media people are convinced we’re idiots, and I know that there are enough idiots around that it’s not like they are completely unjustified, but don’t most of the people who wouldn’t see through this transparent partisanship already fall into one of the partisan camps in the first place? I mean, in the end, all they are doing is continuing to throw their (already heavily damaged) credibility down the toilet, and it’s a matter of time before they lose any audience outside the echo chamber. At this point, all that would require is for Cato and the Republicans each to set up one "independent" cable news network (I suppose the Republicans could co-opt Fox away from somewhat balanced into the anti-CNN), and we’re back to the pre-Murrow days of explicitly partisan media, and everyone preaching to their own choirs.
Good Lord! The hell with DNA tests to determine if Palin’s alleged son Trig is really Bristol’s son!
We need a DNA test done NOW to make sure Sarah Palin isn’t a white European descended male named Cyril Palin and is only DRESSING UP LIKE A WOMAN (not that there’s anything wrong with that you know, gender confusion being what it is). We shouldn’t let the Republicans foist a man off as a woman before the Dems have had that honor first!
That’s the only possible way I can see these glaring inconsistencies in her supposedly female behavior -
Conservative woman running for Vice President when she should be home taking care of the kids! Choosing to actually HAVE five children when abortion is so readily available! Choosing to let her daughter, who really should be able to decide for herself anyway without discussing it with her parents, have a child when abortion is so readily available! Holding SO MANY conservative views - Guns! Hunting! Creationism! Pro-Life!
In Professor Scerb’s class "Fun Card Tricks" we’ve been taught that Karl Rove and the Halliburton Bush!tes will stoop to any level to keep their Bush/McCain authoritarian rule over the US. This is yet another diabolical plot to make that vile dream come to fruition. It would be just like them to try and foist a cross dressing man off as a woman in order to derail the Post Modern agenda.
So the media’s going to wait for the Christian right to rise up and condemn Mrs. Palin, and they’re not going to do it because it’s not their way, and in any case her problems are their problems. Christians lived through the second half of the 20th century, and the first years of the 21st. They weren’t immune from the culture, they just eventually broke from it, or came to hold themselves in some ways apart from it. I think the media will explain the lack of condemnation as "Republican loyalty" and "talking points." But that’s not what it will be.
Peggy Noonan - who didn’t - know her mic was over - was similarly critical.
Umm, you mean this Peggy Noonan...
Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense but the How Do I Reload This Thang way, because she is a woman who in style, history, moxie and femininity is exactly like a normal American feminist and not an Abstract Theory feminist; because she wears makeup and heels and eats mooseburgers and is Alaska Tough, as Time magazine put it; because she is conservative, and pro-2nd Amendment and pro-life; and because conservatives can smell this sort of thing — who is really one of them and who is not — and will fight to the death for one of their beleaguered own; because of all of this she is a real and present danger to the American left, and to the Obama candidacy.
Evidently being prepared to answer that 3 AM phone call is more important for a vice president than a president, and for a Republican more than a Democrat. Since Hillary Clinton has more foreign policy and defense experience than Obama, both personal and vicarious, Obama must be better qualified because he is a male.
I hope you are right, but I fear that the damage is done. The media have their meme and they’ve pounded it with a frenzy that makes Hitler and Co. discussing the Jews look like geriatric grandmothers discussing the best way to bake apple pies. Does anybody think that, in a week or so, the MSM will calm down and start taking a rational, measured, objective look at Sarah Palin? Or will she forever be the rube from Alaska with the pregnant teenage daughter? I know where I’d put MY money.
In the public mind, Sarah Palin and her family are the Alaskan equivalent of the Spears family. The media haven’t gotten around to really discussing her credentials because they really don’t want to... or have to. All the voting public needs to know is that she’s a terrible mother with lots of "questions" about her parenting skills, her "slut" daughter (the MSM doesn’t use the term, but it’s what they mean), and those "ethics charges". And who knows what new rumors Kos and DU are cooking up to be repeated by CNN and the networks? "New question about Sarah Palin: was the Alaska governor a crack-addicted prostitute?"
When it comes time to trip the lever, will John Q. Public think, "Hmmm... Governor of the largest state... Large family... Not elitist at all... Record as a reformer... Yeah, she’ll do", or will he think, "HER???? Man, I haven’t heard anything good AT ALL about that woman. Can’t even keep her kids under control... Do we want THAT in the White House??? NO WAY!"
McCain was an idiot to choose her, NOT because she’s a bad person or unqualified, but because she has baggage. The election is no longer about McCain or Obama: it’s about Sarah Palin. Not good for McCain.
I love the fascination with the 3 hour job interview. It’s not as if he can’t research her resume and speaches and everything long before the interview. It’s more of what Hollywood calls a meet and greet. Can we get along and work together. Three hours should be sufficient for that.
The election is no longer about McCain or Obama: it’s about Sarah Palin. Not good for McCain.
Not good for Obama, you mean.
Obama-who? Isn’t there someone else running for president? Didn’t he give some sort of a speech or something in front of greek columns in a sold-out sports arena on the anniversary of the "I Have a Dream" speech?
And didn’t he top out at 9 points over McCain in the Gallup poll, and dropping?
Yeah, Sarah Palin is a bad pick. Bad idea. Bringing on a dyed-in-the-wool conservative woman who is a real human being and not just a party hack? Sheer lunacy.
Doc, you may consider taking an extended vacation until this is all over. Get away from the stress of it all. I’d suggest Canada.
"Does anybody think that, in a week or so, the MSM will calm down and start taking a rational, measured, objective look at Sarah Palin?"
If they don’t they will look even dumber than they do right now. Are you listening to Palin right now? The media’s ridiculous, shallow portrayal of Palin is in stark contrast to who she’s showing herself to be tonight. The media is screwed. I think Palin will guarantee a McCain victory. I was very reluctant to vote for McCain (not that I was going to vote for Obama) but now I’m actually excited to do so. I hope Palin turns out to be as great as she appears today and wins the Presidency in 2012.
McCain was an idiot to choose her, NOT because she’s a bad person or unqualified, but because she has baggage.
Name a politician who doesn’t.
What would be the reaction to someone who tried to deflect Obama’s baggage with a quip like that?
What the left & media has done to Palin and her family is a pretty horrible thing. I can understand the backlash and emotion against that.
But, there is an absence of critical thinking applied to the Palin pick by the right which is starting to become unsettling. There’s alway a potential downside to everything. At least worth examining once.
But, there is an absence of critical thinking applied to the Palin pick by the right which is starting to become unsettling. There’s alway a potential downside to everything. At least worth examining once.
You make the assumption it hasn’t been examined. Why is that?
McQ - Name a politician who doesn’t [have baggage].
The kind of juicy, prurient, irrestistable-to-the-MSM baggage like a pro-life, abstinence-only GOP politician with a pregnant, unwed teenage daughter baggage? They are legion. I’m not one of those who wanted a McCain-Lieberman ticket, but the week after Joe’s selection WOULDN’T have been filled with the kind of wall-to-wall garbage we’ve seen about Palin. If McVain really wanted a woman on the ticket, Elizabeth Dole might well have fit the bill, and the media would have absolutely swooned over Olympia Snowe (another RINO like McCain). By selecting Palin with her particular baggage, McVain has made the campaign about HER and given the brownshirts in the MSM all the excuse they need to spend all their time trashing her. By the time they’re done, I fear that John Q. Public will think that Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan come from model families compared to the Palins.
jpm100 is right: there HAS been a lack of critical thinking among many on the right regarding Palin. I think it stems from two things:
1. Conservatives don’t like or trust McVain (I can’t stand that SOB), and are ecstatic that "one of us" is on the ticket;
2. The MSM, already despised by conservatives, overplayed its hand by putting far, far more scrutiny - if you can call "questions" about whether or not Trig Palin is Sarah’s child or Bristol’s - on Sarah Palin than they ever thought about putting on The Annointed One. Conservatives are so busy hating the MSM for this unfairness that they don’t have time to take a thoughtful, critical look at Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin may prove to be the greatest conservative politician since Ronald Reagan. I hope so. But about all I know about her so far is that she was the mayor of Wasilla, is the governor of Alaska, has a large family, likes the great outdoors, and has been shamefully treated by the press. What is her view about Russia and Georgia? Where does she stand on taxes? A balanced budget? Missile defense? Iraq? I’m sure that I’ll learn about these things in the weeks to come (though I’ll have to wade through stories about Bristol), but until I know something about her policies, I’m not going to hail her as the second coming of Ronald Reagan.
Grimshaw - If [the MSM] don’t [calm down and start taking a rational, measured, objective look at Sarah Palin] they will look even dumber than they do right now. Are you listening to Palin right now? The media’s ridiculous, shallow portrayal of Palin is in stark contrast to who she’s showing herself to be tonight. The media is screwed.
I hope so. I really, really do. Not only because Sarah Palin deserves a fair shake AND because I want to see the MSM held accountable for their loathesome brownshirt tactics, but also because I fear that, if the MSM gets away with it, they’ll do it again and again in the future. "Oh, the GOP nominated Joe Smith to be their candidate, eh? Well, well, well... He has a teenage daughter, doesn’t he? Terrific. By the time we finish with that little slut, Smith won’t dare to even show his face in public again." I’m reminded of the the disgraceful tactics employed by Kirk Douglas’ character to get his clients off a rape charge in the movie "Town Without Pity".
But I think that the MSM, like Douglas’ character, WILL get away with it. Who will hold them accountable? As McQ notes in another post, Andrew Sullivan is already blaming the Palins and the McCain campaign for the negative coverage. "We are just doing out jobs. Ve vere only followink orders." Will enough people be outraged by the MSM’s coverage to stop watching CNN or stop buying "Us" magazine or stop reading AP news stories they see on the Yahoo! home page? Nope. The MSM will continue on as it has, perhaps slightly embarrassed, but in no way "screwed".
Ronnie Gipper - Yeah, Sarah Palin is a bad pick. Bad idea. Bringing on a dyed-in-the-wool conservative woman who is a real human being and not just a party hack? Sheer lunacy.
Palin energizes conservatives... most of whom would have (with extreme reluctance) voted for McVain anyway. How will she play to the rest of the country? Libs will hate her by default. I suspect that quite a few more-or-less independent urban voters will be rather put off by her rural background, especially after the MSM helpfully paints Alaska as somewhat chilly cross between Tobacco Road and Deliverance. Here’s a sample from Time magazine:
It’s Friday night, and there have got to be 500 people packed into the Sluice Box, a beer-soaked clapboard honky-tonk at the Alaska State Fair — the state’s biggest event all year — just down the highway from Governor Sarah Palin’s hometown of Wasilla. The legendary Hobo Jim, Alaska’s official state balladeer, the guy who has opened sessions of the legislature with a song, is onstage, working blue.
Hobo Jim, with his old cowboy hat and very new John McCain sticker on his guitar, has the crowd dancing and drinking now.
He plays a Patsy Cline cover. They cheer. He gives shout-outs to the military, then to the great Alaska Railroad. They cheer. He plays the Star-Spangled Banner. They cheer.
Nice, eh? Alaskans are all drunken hayseeds who just looooove listening to music from guys called Hobo Jim.
The governor’s house is actually somewhat modest: a two-story wood shingled building with a couple hundred meters of road leading up to it. There are a few aging trucks parked on the grass alongside the road, alongside a couple trailers and a shack. There’s a portable basketball hoop in the driveway. You can tell it’s the governor’s home because they’ve tacked a moose antler with PALIN painted on it to a tree out front.
No mention of an albino boy picking the banjo on the porch, but I’m sure that the writer is counting on his readers’ imaginations to supply that detail.
But Alaska is a deeply ... different state. It’s more beautiful, more conservative, slightly rougher, though with a protection of privacy that will be hard for her to maintain in the spotlight. Her views, from opposing abortion even in cases of incest or rape to drilling in ANWR, are just more palatable here than in much of the lower 48.
Back at the State Fair, Hobo Jim finishes and starts signing CD’s. "Sarah’s awesome," he tells me. "We love her here."
The question is, will enough voters in the lower 48 feel the same way?
Read the rest if you want a shining example of east coast elitism... and be prepared for lots and LOTS more of the same.
And that’s the problem: if about the only thing that the average voter sees about Sarah Palin is negative and condescending, what is he supposed to think when he goes into the voting booth? People use propaganda because it works, and the MSM is going for the Joseph Goebbels Prize this year with their coverage of Sarah Palin. Just remember Dan Quayle. All HE did was misspell a word.
Ronnie Gipper - Doc, you may consider taking an extended vacation until this is all over. Get away from the stress of it all. I’d suggest Canada.
Actually, not bad advice. I find that perusing the news these days is very, very bad for my blood pressure. I also find that it’s not real good for my romantic life. I made the mistake of grousing about the infamous Us magazine cover story about Sarah Palin and the fact that twenty million witless American women read that rag every week... only to be frostily reminded by my fiancee that she is one of them.
Come on these women (Dowd, Steinem, Noonan, Dr Laura, et al) are not making political statements, they are reacting like any woman their age when confronted by a woman who is younger, smarter, & prettier than they are.