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Hailin’ Palin
Posted by: MichaelW on Wednesday, September 03, 2008

Wow. Great Speech. Not the slick oratory of Sen. Obama mind you, who, no matter your politics, is simply a phenomenal speaker. But Gov. Palin absolutely nailed a speech she had to.

What impressed me most was her poise and delivery, especially given the heightened expectations of tonight's introduction to the VP candidate. She was a little rote at first, but she slowly gathered steam and finished grandly. Throwing barbs at Obama (whom she never mentioned by name) and slathering on the praise of John McCain, she never lost that hometown touch that makes her accessible to everyday ordinary people. Throughout the single-most important speech of her career, she was that small-town girl who's not afraid of power brokers and establishment bigwigs. I think that will resonate with a lot of voters.

As a fellow Gen-X'er, I also liked that she was able to interlace her digs with that subtle sarcasm so familiar to my generation. Obama is the first real Gen-X candidate, but Sarah Palin personifies it in a way that the Harvard educated, Chicago politico just can't. Don't get me wrong; Obama has a certain coolness about him that makes him unmistakably Gen-X. But Palin exudes the qualities of a generation that's unimpressed by fame, power and lofty rhetoric, and more interested in actual results. Obama may be the first Gen-X candidate for President, but Palin is the Gen-X candidate who sounds the death knell for the Baby Boomer dominance of politics. Palin is the Gen-X candidate who sounds the death knell for the Baby Boomer dominance of politics.

Palin did not just what the VP candidate is supposed to do — i.e. tear down the opponent and prop up the head of the ticket — she also signaled that she was ready for whatever may come. If I had written her speech, I would have probably shied away from many of the touchier subjects and focused on her strengths. That would have been mistake. Palin's fundamental strength is her ability to acknowledge the opposition and her willingness to deal with it, no matter what they bring.

OK. All that being said, I thought there were some weaknesses as well. Palin didn't talk specifically enough about how she dealt with earmark reform, and how that fit in with McCain's goals. She did tout her dealings concerning the "Bridge to Nowhere", but she left herself wide open to the substantive attacks on how she was for it before she was against it. Given how every political season is filled with these sorts of flip-flop accusations, maybe it's a minor foul. But it certainly made a difference in John Kerry's 2004 campaign, so I think it could have been addressed better.

Another problem was in how she rather quickly glossed over the foreign policy part of her speech. It was good, in that Palin cited specific events and how they fit into the broad picture, but this was definitely one of the areas where her poise faltered. At points, she seemed to forget her memorized lines, and lost the train of thought enough to make her appear less confident. Seeing as this is her weakest area in terms of experience, those brief stumbles could hurt her.

The last concern of any significance is more strategic. John McCain is going to have a tough time topping Palin's performance tonight, which carries with it the perverse situation where the race turns into Obama vs. Palin. She did heap plenty of attention on John McCain, but in light of all the media attention surrounding Palin over the past few days, there's no doubt that her presence in formidable to both Obama and McCain.

Overall, Sarah Palin knocked one out of the park tonight. But it's still early in the game, and we'll see how it all plays out.

P.S. Biden who?

MORE: I forgot to add another negative. This wasn't on Palin, but on the production crew. How do you not end that speech with the Heart classic, "Barracuda"?

 
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Biden farewell . . .
 
Written By: Don
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They’re saving "Barracuda" for the next YouTube ad. I hope. :)
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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I don’t share Michael’s opinion on Obama’s smoothness. While I think people see what they want to see in him, he obviously has a devoted following. However, I think his persona is transparent and contrived. He is out for himself and I think that his "coolness" is an affect. I went to school with guys like him and, in the end, they really weren’t that popular because it didn’t take very long to figure out that they were douchebags.

Palin on the other hand has surprised me. I say that as someone who still hasn’t decided to vote for McCain (it’s between McCain and none of the above). I saw someone compare Palin to Marge Gunderson in "Fargo" and I think that comparison is right on the money after her speech tonight. She is feminine and very strong. She may not be very intimidating but I don’t think she is very easily intimidated either. I have aunts back in the mid-west like her. They are farmer’s wives and they are tough as nails while at the same time they are the most loving motherly types that I know. For Palin, the acid test will be in the debate with Biden. I don’t know if she has command of the issues but I think many in the media and the blogosphere are missing the degree to which a strong, feminine, non-elitist woman will resonate with America. If she maintains her mojo like tonight, liberals are going to be disappointed in November.
 
Written By: jt007
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Obviously, she’s an articulate woman, as winning all her elections attests. A degree in Journalism helps her delivery of short sentences with high impact. More than a few good rhetorical jabs, and hints of a wicked right cross (she’s known in Alaska as ’Saracuda,’ not as Sarah ’Barracuda’).

Down to earth. Great smile (’likability’ is the second largest reason Americans vote). Completely unpretentious. In a political year that will see a rout of incumbent Republicans, the national ticket is comprised of two fierce reformers; her credentials as a political reformer are impeccable. Neiter Obama nor Biden can match McCain and Palin as reforming agents of positive ’change.’

Because of Senator McCain’s age, all the way to Election Day Governor Palin will always be measured as a future presidential candidate, as Senator Biden will not. His will be a swan song; her’s will be a prelude.

Not least of all—something Reagan and Clinton and Nixon knew to be so important to their political careers—the camera flat LOVES Palin! The day she tosses off those glasses and throws her hair is the day she’ll crush Biden’s influence in the Democratic campaign. Imagine ’Iron Lady’ Thatcher with Governor Palin’s camera appeal...Biden, the expert policy wonk, is in serious trouble. A tough woman who is a looker? Sign up America.

McCain/Palin by 51%-47% on Election Day.
 
Written By: a Duoist
URL: http://www.duoism.org
Here is perfect way for Palin to nail Biden:

Biden will spend the entire debate on "John McCain this..." and "John McCain that..." and as he does, Palin should turn to him and say, "Senator, you are not debating John McCain. You are debating me. I am right here. The least you could do is address me, and not John McCain, who is not in this room."

The women of America would stand up and cheer for her. And Biden would look like the proverbial deer caught the headlights.

I really feared for the debates this year. But after seeing McCain clean Obama’s clock at Saddleback, and now seeing that Palin can fight with a knife while smiling, I am starting to think that Obama and crew are relying on their good speeches and that won’t win it for them this year.

Just ask Al Gore. He thought he would beat Bush in 2000 and look what happened to him. (What ever did happen to him?)
 
Written By: James Marsden
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No executive experience

Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume ..

"Recently [1995] he [Obama] was appointed president of the board of the Annenberg Challenge Grant, which will distribute some $50 million in grants to public-school reform efforts."

... I wonder why ?? ... this would be an excellent comeback for Obama to all those complaints that he never had executive experience or handled a payroll.
 
Written By: Neo
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Scott Erb said: "LOL! The Palin choice is exploding in the face of the GOP, and proving McCain utterly incompetent."
 
Written By: T
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Sarah Palin is the reason the compass points north.
 
Written By: Augustus
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The last concern of any significance is more strategic. John McCain is going to have a tough time topping Palin’s performance tonight, which carries with it the perverse situation where the race turns into Obama vs. Palin. She did heap plenty of attention on John McCain, but in light of all the media attention surrounding Palin over the past few days, there’s no doubt that her presence in formidable to both Obama and McCain.
This has become, to all intents, constructions, and purposes, a Palin/McCain ticket for now.
The Republican’s enthusiasm for Palin has catapulted her right over McCain’s head. And the Republicans should be very concerned by this. Because though Palin is seen by the Republican faithful as a much needed boost to McCain’s ticket, the monumental enthusiasm for Palin from the Republicans could be seen by your average independent voter as a Republican replacement for John McCain. That is very icy considering the short time before election day.

Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
One thing is for certain, Obama has been on the national stage going on two years now. The voting public has gotten, for better or worse, a real good look at Obama. Palin not so much. So will they feel comfortable voting for her over Obama if this concretes into a Palin/McCain ticket?

McCain does indeed have a difficult task ahead of him tonight. If Palin hit one out of the park, then what does McCain have to do? Hit one out of the park and over the street? Or does he merely need a base hit?
It is going to be interesting watching tonight’s match-up between John McCain, the Republican nominee for President of the United States, and the New York Football Giants, the Super Bowl champions playing division rival Washington Redskins on opening night of the NFL season.

I know what I’ll be watching.

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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This has become, to all intents, constructions, and purposes, a Palin/McCain ticket for now.
No it hasn’t.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
I forgot to add another negative. This wasn’t on Palin, but on the production crew. How do you not end that speech with the Heart classic, "Barracuda"?
That’s one possibility, of course, but there are others, as well.
 
Written By: Xrlq
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That’s one possibility, of course, but there are others, as well.
I choose #9.
 
Written By: MichaelW
URL: http://qando.net
Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
Well, the American people have elected executive experience over legislative for almost 40 years now. The average American voter (if not the average Democrat) is smart enough to tell the difference.

Also, Palin’s actual accomplishments (aside from degrees, job titles, and promotions, but the actual things she has accomplished) were mentioned quite a bit, in stark contrast to Obama’s lack of same.

That said, McCain needs to have a strong follow up, I agree with you there.
Sarah Palin is the reason the compass points north.
My compass was pointing north, I’ll tell you that.
 
Written By: Don
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Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
How could they not?

Pogue, please tell me what Obama has done that has given him any experience for this job. Please, I really want to know. Please tell us what he has done that has any note at all.

-> Is it that he has campaigned for president?
-> That he has written 2 memoirs
-> That he was president of Law review at Harvard (which relates how exactly)
-> That he was a community organizer (and did what there exactly, details please, because it seems that all the relevant information has been locked away)
-> that he passed important legislation? (what, I don’t think he had any time with all the campaigning)

In short, its bupkis, nada.

 
Written By: capt joe
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This has become, to all intents, constructions, and purposes, a Palin/McCain ticket for now.
No it hasn’t.


Oh... Well... Since you put it that way, I have little choice but to concede.

Well played, sir.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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No it hasn’t.
I understand your response, and I even agree with it.. But you know, Martin, there is this to be said; she is central to this election in a way that no VP candidate has been in a long time. And I’d suggest that’s why she’s such a lightning rod, attracting all the leftie nutjob attacks. The responses from those corners, by the way, has been amazingly muted, so far.
 
Written By: Bithead
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How could they not?
I don’t know. We’ll see.
Pogue, please tell me what Obama has done that has given him any experience for this job. Please, I really want to know. Please tell us what he has done that has any note at all
No thanks.
I will not defend Obama’s resume for two reasons...

1. It’s not my yobb.
2. You’ve clearly made up your mind, so... why bother?
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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No thanks.
I will not defend Obama’s resume for two reasons...

1. It’s not my yobb.
2. You’ve clearly made up your mind, so... why bother?
Oh... Well... Since you put it that way, I have little choice but to concede.

Well played, sir.
 
Written By: Curt Mitchell
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Oh... Well... Since you put it that way, I have little choice but to concede.
Why would you think that your stupid comment required no more than a "No"?

McCain is the candidate for president. His VP choice reflects well on him.

Eric:
But you know, Martin, there is this to be said; she is central to this election in a way that no VP candidate has been in a long time.
She’s central to the election only in the sense that she bolsters confidence in McCain and his maverick way. She redounds to his credit. It puts McCain in a new light: picks very smart confident young woman reformer as running mate who highlights his own outsider character. With his very first presidential decision, he changes the political landscape of America. A reason to vote for him.

He’s now a cagey old warrior, as opposed to a 72-year-old man.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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1. It’s not my yobb.
There is a job for that?

Well, you brought up the topic. I guess, if one has nothing then DNC talking points will keep you warm at night.
2. You’ve clearly made up your mind, so... why bother?
Has this come down to beliefs? Ok, I can understand that.

Just tell me what he has done. In reality, the answer is nothing

You are in Keith Olberman’s spot, unable to say anything because of the massive cognitive dissonance of your position
 
Written By: capt joe
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Speaking of Keith Olbermann, I’ve finally found the correct historical comparative for him. He’s the modern American equivalent of George Lincoln Rockwell.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
Months are longer than they’ve ever been before, as the media news cycles accelerate.

In another couple of weeks, the Palin frenzy will wear off. I don’t think it’ll ever go away, but it’ll cease to be the focus. It’ll probably never wear off so much that, say, people will stop seeing the media as incredibly sexist in their treatment of her.

(I note now the Clinton campaign has been handed their way to hobble the Obama campaign on a silver platter. They get to complain about the sexist treatment in the media, which plays to their advantage by preparing the field for her next go-around. Of course, if 2012 is Palin v. Clinton, it won’t matter much...)
 
Written By: Jeremy Bowers
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You are in Keith Olberman’s spot, unable to say anything because of the massive cognitive dissonance of your position
Do tell...
What is my position?

You figure I can’t just be a neutral observer in a race between two lame horses. You reckon I’m either on your side, or their side.

So please, capt., please tell me what you think my position is.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Pogy, you said this:
Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
I asked you to state your case for the position you took above. You misdirected.

Tell me your position, since you were stating one (above). Why should I tell you? No, you tell me. I await breathlessly
 
Written By: capt joe
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PogueMahone (I still love that — it’s like Chevy keeping the car named Nova when they sold it in Mexico) is generally a pretty smart and observant guy, and deserving of more credit than Martin is giving him. And yeah, if he doesn’t want to defend Obama’s record, so be it. But Pogue, not defending Obama’s record on the grounds that we’ve "already made up our minds?" Not so classy, or convincing. (And somewhat ironic, given that you’ve as much as said you won’t even be watching McCain tonight.)
This has become, to all intents, constructions, and purposes, a Palin/McCain ticket for now.

The Republican’s enthusiasm for Palin has catapulted her right over McCain’s head. And the Republicans should be very concerned by this. Because though Palin is seen by the Republican faithful as a much needed boost to McCain’s ticket, the monumental enthusiasm for Palin from the Republicans could be seen by your average independent voter as a Republican replacement for John McCain. That is very icy considering the short time before election day.
Republicans love the choice of Palin as a candidate for VP, no doubt about it. Heck, I love it and I haven’t been a Republican since 1992. But it’s not the Republicans’ enthusiasm that has put her in such a prominent position, but the Democratic and media (forgive the repetition) attacks on her. Understandable, since they can at least argue that Obama’s experience is comparable to hers in preparing him for the job she’s not running for, and that’s more than they have against McCain on the experience front. As an independent, and someone who knows a lot of independents, I don’t think we could so easily confuse McCain’s and Palin’s roles.
Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
One thing is for certain, Obama has been on the national stage going on two years now. The voting public has gotten, for better or worse, a real good look at Obama. Palin not so much. So will they feel comfortable voting for her over Obama if this concretes into a Palin/McCain ticket?
Obama has better national political experience. Palin has better executive experience. The Democrats would have a better chance with Biden/Obama, and the Republicans with Palin/McCain, but given that we have what we have, the race is Obama vs. McCain. (In other words, I dispute your premise.) And in that matchup, it is unarguable that McCain’s experience overtops Obama’s by a wide margin. It is on that grounds that Obama’s supporters must defend his experience (or propose an alternative) if they wish to gain adherents. Arguing that Obama is at least comparably qualified to the Republicans’ VP choice is not going to help Obama win.
McCain does indeed have a difficult task ahead of him tonight. If Palin hit one out of the park, then what does McCain have to do? Hit one out of the park and over the street? Or does he merely need a base hit?
Pretty much, yeah, he is going to have a hard time tonight, after her speech last night. If I were in his position, and assuming he doesn’t have something really, really good, I’d just walk out on the extension they’ve built, sit down on a stool holding a mic, and start out with something like:

"We’ve heard some fine speeches at this convention, and they show the depth and breadth of talent that we bring to the country this year, talent that the Democrats, for all their enthusiasm, lack. But there are some things far more serious than speeches, and we need to talk about those tonight."

I would then go into the world and domestic situations, and what I would do about them, and how hard it would be to accomplish anything once the real politics and diplomacy are engaged, and so forth. A really frank talk — more like a discussion than a speech. That kind of low key style, combined with a serious discussion of issues, would really show up Obama’s self-hagiography and vagueness, and would put McCain across as a regular guy, contrasting with Obama’s elite aloofness.

But yeah, whatever he does, he’s going to have to do really well to impress people.


 
Written By: Jeff Medcalf
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Obama has better national political experience.
He has more national exposure. He also hasn’t figured out how many states there are, so I’m not sure I’d call that experience.
 
Written By: Don
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it’s not the Republicans’ enthusiasm that has put [Palin] in such a prominent position, but the Democratic and media (forgive the repetition) attacks on her.
Actually, I don’t think that’s true. As soon as the Democrats and their media laid eyes on Palin last Friday they had a feral reaction to her. They instinctively knew that she was something that they were not going to be able to handle, so they began snarling like cornered animals. It didn’t do them any good. She walked right up to them last night and shot them between the eyes.

Palin’s husband alone brings in more votes from the pick-up truck demographic than Joe Biden would pull from all demographic groups. She is going to draw independent women; she is going to draw Reagan Democrats. She is a reign of terror against Democrats in small towns and rural parts, and even in suburbs.

With her McCain was able to redefine his campaign, throwing out the stale and dusty and throwing open the windows.

Obama is exposed a tiresome loafer, the all hat, no cattle candidate.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
He also hasn’t figured out how many states there are
So is Alaska the 56st or 49nd, that is what I want him to answer :)

Oh, and do it without the teleprompter
 
Written By: capt joe
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Pogy, you said this:
Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
I asked you to state your case for the position you took above. You misdirected.
Read it again capt.
It’s not a position, it’s a question. Notice the question marks.



See?
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Jeff,
I appreciate the kind words. And right back atcha’. :)

Couple of things to clear up…
But Pogue, not defending Obama’s record on the grounds that we’ve "already made up our minds?" Not so classy, or convincing. (And somewhat ironic, given that you’ve as much as said you won’t even be watching McCain tonight.)
It’s not that all of you have made up your minds. That comment was directed solely at capt. Joe, and you would have a hard time convincing me that capt. Joe hasn’t already made up his mind. And I’ll watch McCain’s speech, … but later… online. I’m pumped about the upcoming NFL season. And I have to wonder just how many households will have the game on, and not the RNC. I wonder will Palin’s speech have more viewers than McCain’s. We’ll see.
Obama has better national political experience. Palin has better executive experience. The Democrats would have a better chance with Biden/Obama, and the Republicans with Palin/McCain, but given that we have what we have, the race is Obama vs. McCain. (In other words, I dispute your premise.)
My premise is that it is Palin/McCain for now. One cannot help but notice more enthusiasm from the Republicans for Palin over McCain right now.

Yeah, I think in a short time, the focus will return to McCain. But, what does this display of greater enthusiasm for Palin show the independents and undecided’s? And like I pointed out in a previous thread, this enthusiasm gap could have the potential of mudding the waters a little.
The last concern of any significance is more strategic. John McCain is going to have a tough time topping Palin’s performance tonight, which carries with it the perverse situation where the race turns into Obama vs. Palin.

MichaelW
In the spirit of this blog’s title, these are merely questions and observations. I have made no prediction or judgments on what will happen.

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
URL: http://
Palin’s experience and resume can be compared to Obama’s. Of course most of you here will view it as superior to Obama’s, but will most of the voting public see it that way???
It’s not a position, it’s a question
Ok sure, an answer posed as a question. How Alex Trevek like :)

misdirection again.


 
Written By: capt joe
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I think McCain will surprise us. He did last week.

My prediction: After the MSM and the Obama campaign have thoroughly scuttled themselves over Palin, McCain will tag back in, and finish things off.

I was a Romney supporter from the beginning of this thing. I didn’t think McCain had the fight in him. Clearly I underestimated the man.
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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I have made no prediction or judgments on what will happen.
Chickesh*t.
 
Written By: Don
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Insults work better if you spell them correctly, assh*le.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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