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Meanwhile, on the campaign trail
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, September 04, 2008

While all the hoopla is going on in St. Paul, Joe Biden reprized an Obama theme:
Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

But his statements represent the Democrats' strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.

"[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president — no one is above the law."
Frankly I agree with them. No one is above the law and, should there be a sound legal basis, I wouldn't at all object to those who can be shown to have broken the law frog marched off to court.

What I would object too, and what I believe the Democrats would do, is make a political show of such a process, pursue charges that are tenuous at best and generally muck up "justice" with politics.

How likely is it? Well Obama, being the consummate political animal, seems to understand the downside potential, at least:
"[I]f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."
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Frankly I agree with them. No one is above the law and, should there be a sound legal basis, I wouldn’t at all object to those who can be shown to have broken the law frog marched off to court.
By the same token, then, let’s frg march the whole of the Clinton administration off to court, for the Ruby Ridge fiasco, and for not correctly responding to the first WTC attack, which resulted in the loss of American lives.

Written By: Bithead
get yourself one of these and simultaneously poke a finger in the eye of the left
Written By: capt joe
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If there were actual crimes to investigate WTF was the 110th Congress actually doing for the past two years? Shirking their duties? Sounds criminally negligent to me.
Written By: Chip
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In 1980, Jimmy Carter went to the Soviets to ask for help with the election. He did so again in ’84 for Mondale.

I consider plotting with to undermine an election with an evil foreign power treason. Yet, I’m not sure going after Carter makes sense, even though I think he’s a vile, evil little man. He’s also an ex-President, and going after him sets a precident that opposition parties will follow.

The Democrats are inclined to drag us towards banana republic status. The "prosecute Bush" and "Gore recount 2000" are two prime examples.
Written By: Don
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If the dems prosecute Bush or anybody in his administration for anything but a real, demonstrable, genuine, unmistakable crime... Well, it would be about the most destructive thing they could do to the country. Is this a road they REALLY want to put us on, where every change of the party in power signals the start of payback prosecutions? As other commenters have already noted, one COULD put together an indictment of Jimmuh and Slick Willie if so inclined. Probably NOT the sort of indictment that would stand up in court, but more than enough to stand up in the biased court of media opinion. That is, if the bias is on your side.
Written By: docjim505
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Obama used the phrase: " first term...." True to form, he is already planning for his next campaign job.
Written By: Tim M
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There are three roads to civil war in the US that I’ve identified, and criminal prosecution by the opposing party for policy decisions is one of them. The other two, FWIW, are a successful attempt to cancel a national election or otherwise to unconstitutionally remain in office, and an successfully banning essentially all guns outside of big cities. I really don’t think any party wants to go down this road. Then again, I really thing Biden was playing to the base and not being serious.
Written By: Jeff Medcalf
Yeah, well, as others have found out, playing to the base leaves you vulnerable in that they expect you to actually follow through eventually.

Written By: Bithead

Consider the 2000 election recounts; what if Bush won the initial count, and Gore won the recount? Do we do a "best out of three" thing, and everyone goes home happy?

I think that Gore’s recounts were a dang close thing, particularly since the Dems had no argument about election fraud, and simply launched into recounts because they were so close to winning.

Written By: Don
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Oh, don’t think that hasn’t occurred to me, Don. That’s when I started thinking about what it would take to provoke a civil war. That one would have been really, really a close call, and if it came out later that there was any fraud anywhere that could have tipped the balance (and there is always some fraud, and in that case it wouldn’t have taken much to tip the balance), it would have been most ugly. That’s one of the reasons why I think that the FL Supreme Court were the most evil players in that little drama: it’s bad enough to rewrite the rules just before an election (a la New Jersey in the Senate race), and quite another to rewrite them after the votes were cast, then continue to rewrite them and test against reality to see if you’ve got the "right" outcome.

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