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I don’t think so
Posted by: McQ on Sunday, September 07, 2008

Oliver Willis entitles a post "GOP Has Buyers Remorse" and claims the GOP is upset that Palin is on the bottom of the ticket instead of the top.

Not really. Possibly in fantasy land, but unlike the "reality based community" most on the right live in the present. Even if they don't particularly like it, I think most of the GOP see McCain as a much better match up for Obama in this cycle than just anyone else. And I also think that most of the GOP sees 4 years of McCain as tolerable (even more so with the inclusion of Palin). A place-holder if you will. In fact, most of them have come to the conclusion that because of the way McCain matches up against Obama may be, surprisingly, the best candidate for the GOP in this election.

Yes Sarah Palin excites the GOP. But I'm not hearing that much about "gee, we should have put her at the top of the ticket" (except in jest) from people serious about politics. Unlike the Dems who have placed a very inexperienced and unseasoned politician at the top of their ticket, the Reps seem to understand that while she has vastly more executive experience than Obama (and yes, they're all running for an executive position), and, if necessary, could most likely step into the position of President and do well, 4 years of seasoning as VP won't hurt at all.

And, barring a major political catastrophe, it will make her formidable in either '12 or '16 against just about anyone the Dems can put up there.

Palin is the "new guard" of the GOP. That's why there's so much excitement. She's really and honestly from outside the beltway. She's the type of politician for which the GOP base has been hungering. She's authentic. She's lived her principles. She's unapologetic about that and she's a fighter. As Paul Harris points out in the Observer:
There is no doubting that much of Palin's appeal rests in her biography and its presentation. She does not look like a normal politician. She looks like what she says she is at heart: a mother who got into politics via the parent-teacher association at her local school. Or to put it another way: she looks like the voters she is aiming at. That is a powerful weapon in an election where centrist women could be key.
And, unlike the "new politician" at the top of the Dem's ticket, she also has the advantage of having actually done something.
 
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Actually, a better case of buyers remorse could be made about Democrats and Obama. (note: not left but Dems) All that talk of hope and change, the soaring rhetoric, the appeal of a new golden path, all gone now, hastily cast aside the slanders and innuendos against Palin.

Kinda like savoring a Safeway brand cola, then realizing that the person across the table has a Coke.
 
Written By: bains
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I put Oliver Willis in the same category as Keith Olbermann and Chris Mathews. All of them have drunk deep of the Obama Koolaid and are in the tank for the Donks and they will say anything to try and put down the GOP ticket - regardless of the truth. They seem to, all of them, operate on the theory that if they throw enough crap against the wall, finally something will stick.

You are right, McQ. Even though Sarah Palin has some excitement to this campaign, no one that I have spoken to has even hinted that her place on the ticket should be on top. Why would the GOP make the same mistake the Democrats are making by having someone inexperienced at the top of the ticket. And, as you say, it is even worse for the Dems in that their headliner is the one with virtually no experience at all, much less any executive experience.
 
Written By: SShiell
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What is it with the Left and projection, anyway?
 
Written By: Jeremy Bowers
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WOW......the left has gone from "GOP considering Eagleton option" to "GOP wishes Palin was top of the ticket"

LMFAO these idiots are flailing.

 
Written By: shark
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Erb? You there sweetie?
 
Written By: shark
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Everybody knows that the VP is the most powerful position in the world .. think Cheney.
 
Written By: Neo
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Whenever someone starts a sentence with "Oliver Willis said," I know that whatever’s coming next is balderdash.
 
Written By: physics geek
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If Palin were a democrat, she would be on the top of the ticket.

Sarah Palin’s life is a direct contradiction of the liberal feminists’ narrative that women are exploited and oppressed. She’s married to a man. She has had five children.

Palin’s accomplishments are her own, not her husband’s. She is the governor of an important oil producing state. She kills her own food. She took on the Alaskan government’s corrupt political system and won. She opposes abortion and refused to terminate Trig’s pregnancy despite medical advice to do so. She took on Alaska’s oil industry and forced them to compete for contracts. She takes her children to the office. She is a Christian. She was a beauty queen and a star athlete. She is, and will continue to, work for her constituents. She is a bush pilot. She is smart and articulate. She takes zero sh*t from Obama, the Dems or the media. Best of all, she is socially & fiscally conservative.

In the ten days since McCain’s announcement, Obama has gone from +9% to -3%. Money is flowing into the RNC but the DNC is sputtering. When November comes, those red state freshmen democrats are going to be facing a resurgent conservative turnout. Do not be surprised if Nancy Pelosi becomes minority leader again.
 
Written By: arch
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You mean people still read Oliver Willis’ blog?

Who knew?
 
Written By: Warrior Needs Food Badly
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Yeah, this would be the same Oliver Willis who recently wrote:
Sarah Palin is a Nazi. And so is the Republican party and the modern conservatives who control it and represent a majority of it’s membership. See, it’s not so hard. When the GOP stops acting like the Nazis, we’ll stop calling ‘em that. If the last two nights are any kind of evidence, that day ain’t coming soon.
Palin has driven him insane and it’s hilarious.
 
Written By: JWG
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"GOP Has Buyers Remorse"

Funny that’s not what I saw.

What I saw was Obama and the Obama camp jealous that Palin stole the spotlight for over a week in a way Obama never could.

And the Left was largely responsible for all the attention. If they had just said, "that’s nice." and kept silent about it, Palin wouldn’t have had the impact she had.
 
Written By: jpm100
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And the same Oliver Willis that fought so hard for a klansman just because he was a powerful democratic senator. The classic case of enemy of my enemy that now drives Obama to plead with Hilary to help him fight against Palin.

People like Willis are far more scary because they would sell every principle for power.
 
Written By: capt joe
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Oliver Willis doesn’t believe what he writes, Bruce. You know that. That’s why it’s pointless to engage him. In fact, he’ll take your refutation as a sign that he’s struck a nerve... that you really do want Palin atop the ticket.

Bains is right... Dems realized just a tad too late that the winning ticket was Clinton/Obama. But by the time they saw it, they’d inflated Obama too far. And Joe Biden for Obama’s running mate? They’ve done all they could to ensure a GOP White House for the next four years.

Definitely projecting.
 
Written By: Wulf
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Dems realized just a tad too late that the winning ticket was Clinton/Obama.
Yeah, but Michelle didn’t like it so that is where Biden came from. Dems seem to confuse nuance for whipped.
 
Written By: capt joe
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All these mindreaders! I like that I’m so insignificant and irrelevant that you’ve all got theories about me. Or something!
 
Written By: Oliver Willis
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That would be "Contempt" Ollie. I know it’s a two-syllable word, but do look it up.
 
Written By: The Gonzman
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The other political front ...
This Congress has earned a reputation as one of the least productive in history. Throughout this year, Democratic leaders have ignored the public’s demand for relief from high energy prices. This is their final chance to take action before the November elections. If members of Congress do not support the American people at the gas pump, then they should not expect the American people to support them at the ballot box.”
 
Written By: Neo
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McCain +10 in USA Today/Gallup poll of likely voters. Gallup Tracking poll of registered voters shows McCain +3. That same tracking poll on August 31 showed Obama +7. That’s a 10 point swing in a week on the same poll.

Read it and weep, Ollie!

Mkultra, care to come back and eat your words?

Erb, it’s time for you to come and explain why we all misunderstood you when you said Palin was a bad pick.

 
Written By: Steverino
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Steverino,

Actually I think what he said was,
McCain is toast. This was the most disastrous decision he could make — his first "Presidential" decision. But hey, stay in denial if you want. But the heat is on, and it’s only going to get hotter.
but I don’t think he’ll be explaining that away anytime soon either. To be fair, It’s still a long time until election day, momentum will shift many times and BHO may still prevail (I doubt it), but win or lose, Maverick made one hell of a gambit with Caribou Barbie that’s for sure. I’ll say again, I still don’t like McCain’s politics much, but the old man’s got game...
 
Written By: Marco
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When the LA Times runs articles like this, for better or for worse, I think this thing may be over.
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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Marco, I’m not overly fond of McCain, either. He certainly wasn’t my first choice for the Republican nominee. But his pick of Palin proved to me that he wasn’t afraid to make a bold move, and he wasn’t afraid to buck convention when his instincts said otherwise. Obama, on the other hand, has been running on a platform of change, but his pick was same old, same old. And his attacks on Palin (against whom he isn’t even running!) show just how phony his words have been.

If this were a chess game, I’d give McCain’s move a double exclamation point.
 
Written By: Steverino
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Lets not get carried away. Lots of twists and turns left in this election
 
Written By: shark
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Oliver, no one here ever thinks of you unless Bruce unfathomably brings you up. As to theories about what you think and why, it’s the same general theories (ney, laws) that we apply to most ’progressives’ so you’re nothing special - just a run of the mill s*o*c*i*a*l*i*s*t who can barely produce a coherent thought. You occasionally have entertainment value though.
 
Written By: Grimshaw
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Lets not get carried away. Lots of twists and turns left in this election.
Agreed. What we’re seeing now is the expected post convention bounce. The real proof of it’s worth will be seeing if it can be maintained.
 
Written By: McQ
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My question since last week is this: why do the Dems keep mentioning Palin’s "inexperience"? Do they not realize that each time they mention that, it evokes memories of how utterly inexperienced Obama is?

Are the Dems that flummoxed by Palin that they continue using an issue which is continually biting them in the arse?
 
Written By: James Marsden
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I am not a fan of McCain, either - I met him some years ago (I was talking with the junior Senator from Arizona, Jon Kyl, who happens to be a great guy), and McCain was gruff, nasty, and never even turned to look at me. And I was from Arizona!

But McCain has earned a lot of respect from me this election, his barbs against George W. Bush notwithstanding. (I am still a Bush supporter, so you can pile on me now.) His pick of Palin has me fired up, and Obama scares the holy Bejesus out of me.

BTW, I was a Fred Thompson man in the primaries.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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I have been dead set on throwing my vote away to a 3rd party since before McCain was even chosen. I didn’t like any of the choices but after the Palin pick I am having thoughts of going ahead and holding my nose for McCain. I can’t be the only one so that has to be at least a small positive Palin is giving McCain. Obomas choice of VP does none of that.

On a side note pointed at the McCain campiagn. When you and Palin meet on the same stage stop having McCain greet her with a hug and peck on the cheek. I know it is a proper greeting in a social setting for male/female but I really don’t want the President/VP of my country comfortable enough to do the hug/peck on cheek thing. Every time I see it ,it turns me off.
 
Written By: SkyWatch
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All these mindreaders! I like that I’m so insignificant and irrelevant that you’ve all got theories about me. Or something!
Actually we are hoping that it will take you to new depths.

Thanks to you and others, McCain now leads Obama by 10.

Way to go O-dub! Keep the hate spewing because it only helps Palin and in course McCain.
 
Written By: capt joe
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One of the Problems with the Palin pick, is that McCain is putting a high value Republican asset at risk before it is fully mature in order to get elected.

I said this about Jindal and it applies to Palin. She would be much more valuable an asset if she was allowed to complete 2 full terms. Not just for the experience but for the track record. The ’track record’ is what people are really interested in. I’ve felt baited and switched before. I’m not the only one. A track record at governor level would relieve that. In Palins case, it has been impressive, but its short. Its more than Obama, Biden & McCain put together. But three times zero is still zero.

If they win, depending on how McCain uses her, she could end up like Gore or Mondale and be shoved off as a bench warmer. I wouldn’t put it past McCain. If her reputation is true, she’ll probably quit if that happens. Not only that, but the VP inherits the criticisms of the past administration and have trouble distancing themselves from it when they do run.

If they lose, the running mate often ends up with the stink of failure on them. That won’t transfer as much to Palin and she could probably return if not in 2012, then 2016. The problem is that in the mean time, those attacking her now are not going to relent until she is out of politics. But I don’t think, out of the national scene, she’ll have bloggers or other national level resources coming to her defense. They’ll try their damnedest to unseat her as governor, even if it means buying all the local media outlets to create a new narrative.

I’m just saying two governor terms and Palin could have made a run for the President spot directly. It would be a home run. But we’re sacrificing (or putting at risk) that for McCain to win today.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Not theories, Oliver.
Jokes.
 
Written By: Bithead
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Oliver’s too busy playing "Kool Thing" by Sonic Youth over and over on his I-Pod to hear you, Bithead.
 
Written By: Ernest Brown
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