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Sarah Palin - The "Anti-Obama"
Posted by: McQ on Monday, September 15, 2008

I, like many Americans, have been amazed by the reaction of both the right and the left to the naming of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate. To label her a “phenomenon” seems to be an understatement. Her choice has shocked the establishment, changed the entire election, created visceral positive or negative reactions, and, for at least one-side, energized a base like it hasn’t been energized in years.

As Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco said recently, “for first time in modern history, a presidential race is actually going to be decided by the vice presidential pick.” Whether you agree or not, you can’t help but agree her selection for VP on a Republican ticket seems to have changed the entire game.

What is it about Sarah Palin that has ignited this phenomenon? It certainly isn’t just the politics – the claim she was chosen to appeal to women after the Democrats made a safe pick with Joe Biden while ignoring Hillary Clinton.

Obviously that’s a factor. But it doesn’t account for the huge popularity she enjoys from the right and many independents. And it isn’t because she’s new and thus “exciting”. That is a temporary state and I think, by now, you might see that begin to fade as more and more information becomes available about her. Yet I see no evidence of a fade.

So what is it that has Democrats so fearful and Republicans so elated about Sarah Palin? And why is it that she, not John McCain, is being compared to the top of the Democratic ticket, Barack Obama.

I thought Mary Anastasia O’Grady of the WSJ put the Palin phenomenon and the continuing comparison to Obama in its proper perspective. According to O’Grady, it is a war of concepts – the “Obama” and the “Anti-Obama”. Prior to Plain’s emergence there really wasn’t a real “Anti-Obama” in the field.

O’Grady characterized Obama as “egalitarian, collectivism, dependency on government and apologizes for American power.” On the other hand, she sees Palin as “self-reliant, individualism, competitiveness and no apologies, in fact proud of American ‘exceptionalism’.”

It is those dueling concepts that have finally been brought into play by Palin’s selection and it is O’Grady’s belief that most of America is hungering for what Palin represents.

In addition to O’Grady’s spot-on characterizations, Palin brings authenticity to her side of the duel. She has actually reformed government. She is a real outsider, not someone who claims from deep inside the Washington establishment that they’re less rooted in the culture than their opponent. She is considered a "real person" who has faced the problems other Americans face as opposed to those who make claims of being "outsiders" while working deep in the bowels of the political establishment and are disconnected from the struggle.

That authenticity and her real accomplishments have allowed the McCain campaign to successfully pivot from the “experience” theme to the “change” theme and steal it from the Obama campaign. Obama is stuck with “just words” while Palin can point to actual deeds with which to tout real change. And, of course, every time the Democrats have tried to use the pivot away from experience by claiming Palin is woefully inexperienced, it backlights the fact that their presidential nominee has even less experience than Palin. Tired of the incoming, they seem to be backing off that tactic.

With Palin, a new question is now being asked – which type of change do you want? That which has been promised for ages by Washington insiders running as Washington outsiders or that which has been proven with real reform of government through challenging the “insiders” and both parties (to include their own)?

It’s a powerful pivot and a powerful argument. It will be interesting, now that it has been rolled out there, how well the McCain campaign is able to exploit it and if the Obama campaign can counter it.
 
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I wouldn’t classify Obama as less experienced than Palin; they have very similar levels of experience, breaking down between lower and higher levels of government in a similar way.

The difference is Palin has actual executive experience, while Obama only has legislative experience. So Palin has experience of a vastly higher quality than Obama.

Illustraiting this, Palin can point to real accomplishments. Obama, in contrast, can only point to job titles, and perhaps a few bills he’s sponsered.

Further, this was clear when Obama defended his experience by comparing his campaign managment to Palin’s position as mayor. Never mind that he has a campaing manager or two, and that she is a governor, and that she was mayor much longer than he has been running his campaign, and never mind that his campaign hasn’t been very impressive.
 
Written By: Don
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I wouldn’t classify Obama as less experienced than Palin; they have very similar levels of experience, breaking down between lower and higher levels of government in a similar way.
Couldn’t disagree more. They are running for an executive position which has requirements that are far different than those required for legislative experience.

What Obama and Palin share equally is the number of years in government. But there is no comparison in terms of experience for the job category they’re both seeking. Palin wins that comparison hands down.
 
Written By: McQ
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And why is it that she, not John McCain, is being compared to the top of the Democratic ticket, Barack Obama.
Because, for all their bumbling since the Palin pick, the media and Obama campaign know better than to draw attention to the experience gap between McCain and Obama.
 
Written By: Is
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As Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco said recently, "for first time in modern history, a presidential race is actually going to be decided by the vice presidential pick."
In other words, Palin has cured McCain’s electile dysfunction.

Yes, it’s a sexist joke. But I bet she would laugh at it.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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McQ - I thought Mary Anastasia O’Grady of the WSJ put the Palin phenomenon and the continuing comparison to Obama in its proper perspective. According to O’Grady, it is a war of concepts - the "Obama" and the "Anti-Obama". Prior to Plain’s emergence there really wasn’t a real "Anti-Obama" in the field.

O’Grady characterized Obama as "egalitarian, collectivism, dependency on government and apologizes for American power." On the other hand, she sees Palin as "self-reliant, individualism, competitiveness and no apologies, in fact proud of American ’exceptionalism’."

It is those dueling concepts that have finally been brought into play by Palin’s selection and it is O’Grady’s belief that most of America is hungering for what Palin represents.


I think it’s more simple than all of that.

First of all, Palin seems to be what McCain is NOT: a real conservative. Many conservatives - including me - have had deep reservations about McCain and fully expected him to continue to thumb his nose at us by choosing a RINO for his VP. That he didn’t shows that he’s taking us at least a bit seriously. He’s finally giving us a reason to vote for him other than merely keeping the filthy dems out of the Oval Office.

Second, Palin IS something fresh and different. Americans are addicted to "new and improved", and she’s about as different from normal national politicians as it is possible to get.

Finally and most importantly, the libs and their lackeys in the MSM went so overboard in their smearing of Palin that conservatives (and women voters to a lesser extent) "circled the wagons" around her in reaction. Many of the same conservatives who derided The Annointed One’s lack of experience bent over backwards to pooh-pooh liberal objections to Palin’s relatively thin resume (though I would agree that being a mayor and governor is more applicable experience than being a "community organizer" and voting "present" in a state legislature). Both Palinmania and PDS are irrational responses and neither require or even call for anything like a reasoned, careful consideration of her actual merits.

But it DOES make for an interesting election!
 
Written By: docjim505
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He’s finally giving us a reason to vote for him other than merely keeping the filthy dems out of the Oval Office.
I disagree, as that smacks of "vote republican no matter what", which is just as stupid as people who vote dem no matter what.

The current crop? Oh, I don’t want Obama within a mile of the Oval Office, but there ARE Dems who are principled, whom I think would indeed do a good job.
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Inadvertently accurate. It has very little to do with Sarah Palin’s actual actions, at least official actions taken during professional life - on earth. It has everything to do with what she *represents*, and what Barack Obama *represents*, both concepts being entirely a product of willful mythology.

It doesn’t matter if Palin’s record is a lot like Mike Huckabee’s (liberal economics, Christian theology on cultural issues) - minus the pragmatic success)in real life: the fact that she’s been pictured on a Harley and happens to not be indicted makes her a "rugged individualist" and a "reformer". Her popularity has nothing to do with her performance - no one knew Jack squat about that when the republican surge hit. All it took was the apparent absence of wildly obvious pre-established disconfirming information during the intiual marketing blast.

It’s a case study on how little information actually reaches voters - and how little is even neccessary to whip them into frenzy.
 
Written By: glasnost
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Inadvertently accurate.
Heh ... of course it is.

That’s about as close as one ever gets to having you actually admit something’s right.
 
Written By: McQ
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Glasnost, you ignore some real Palin accomplishments not the least of which is a 75-80 percent approval rating by her constituents after nearly two years as Governor of a state after she shook up some entrenched interests mostly in her own party.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
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Couldn’t disagree more. They are running for an executive position which has requirements that are far different than those required for legislative experience.

What Obama and Palin share equally is the number of years in government. But there is no comparison in terms of experience for the job category they’re both seeking. Palin wins that comparison hands down.
I agree that Palin has the right type of experience and Obama doesn’t, I was simply stating that the amount was about the same.
 
Written By: Don
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It’s a case study on how little information actually reaches voters - and how little is even neccessary to whip them into frenzy.


glasnost, you might want to be careful for what you wish for. Your guy can’t afford much spotlight, with his lack of executive experience, his lack of accomplishments, and his radical (even terrorist) associates.

You are very lucky, the MSM seems inclined to spotlight any dirty laundry they can find on Palin, while covering for Obama. And the Palin interview—dang the editing they did to make her look bad. If the press wasn’t in Obama’s pocket, this would be a blow out.

 
Written By: Don
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Glasnost, you ignore some real Palin accomplishments not the least of which is a 75-80 percent approval rating by her constituents after nearly two years as Governor of a state after she shook up some entrenched interests mostly in her own party.
He has to. He can’t point to Obama accomplishments.

Palin, obviously, is a loser because she hasn’t made Alaska into the von Mises ideal in the two years she’s been governor.
 
Written By: Don
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That’s about as close as one ever gets to having you actually admit something’s right.


I think you’re onto something, Q, for once. I really do. I just don’t see it as something to be proud of, which is where, I suppose, we diverge.

Here, Don, I’ll try a straight response in the off-chance it leads you to act less obnoxious.

My support for Obama has very little to do with A) accomplishments, resume, and biography, - which concerns me very little - and a lot more with B) the way his actual proposed policies for what he would do in office are the right ones, in my opinion of course. The only relevance of A) is in speculating about the effects on B, which in this case doesn’t seem to me to be very important.

In the case of Sarah Palin, they seem to be very important, which is partly because she has no B) whatsoever to balance her troubling record and near-instantaneous serial dishonesty. But I wouldn’t vote against, say, Bobby Jindal or attack him, merely because he has hardly any experience, in terms of baloney to stick on a resume. (There’d be other reasons).

From the little I’ve seen of him, Bobby Jindal comes off as less than completely provincial and ignorant. In other words, informed and competent. Like Obama, and unlike Sarah Palin. It’s like the difference between Greg Mankiw and Larry Kudlow (both conservatives) You can very quickly tell that one of them takes a professional approach to knowledge, and one is an ignorant bullsh*t artist.
 
Written By: glasnost
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"It’s a case study on how little information actually reaches voters - and how little is even neccessary to whip them into frenzy."
Case in point:

"Change" "Hope"


 
Written By: Grimshaw
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I don’t think that Palin has any real claim to being a "reformer". She simply managed to kick out one set of politicians, who were known to be corrupt, and replace them with another set of politicians, who haven’t yet had a chance to demonstrate how (in)corruptible they are.

The proof is this the business about the travel allowances she receives from the state. The point is not that she took more than she should have. The point is that she took everything that she was legally allowed to take. I think a person who was really interested in reform would not have done that—would have tried to change the policies so that state funds can’t be milked so much, or at least taken less than the allowable amounts for herself, to set an example for others.


Glasnost—a pretty extreme Democratic blogger I know from Louisiana who has been pretty critical of Jindal since he took office has gone out of her way to praise his performance in preparing for, and following, of Gustav.
 
Written By: kishnevi
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I think you’re onto something, Q, for once. I really do. I just don’t see it as something to be proud of, which is where, I suppose, we diverge.
Well I can understand why you see nothing to be proud of ’nost - look who you’re backing. And look at what he stands for (if you can actually pin it down - but in general terms, O’Grady nails it). I’d find nothing there to be particularly proud of either.
 
Written By: McQ
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She simply managed to kick out one set of politicians, who were known to be corrupt, and replace them with another set of politicians, who haven’t yet had a chance to demonstrate how (in)corruptible they are.
I see - so that means she’s not a ’reformer’.

Got it.
 
Written By: McQ
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...her troubling record and near-instantaneous serial dishonesty.
Nice glass house you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it.

Given Obama’s chronic mendacity on everything from his church, his friendship with terrorists, Annenberg, Rezko, his resume, his positions, and his legislative record, his supporters would be best advised not to cast the dishonesty stone.
 
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My support for Obama has very little to do with A) accomplishments, resume, and biography, - which concerns me very little - and a lot more with B) the way his actual proposed policies for what he would do in office are the right ones, in my opinion of course.
His proposed policies are stuck on stupid.

He was wrong on the Surge. He was in the tank for Freddie/Fannie, and his ideas are part of the problem. He is wrong on drilling.

The left is wrong on economics, gun control, energy policy, forign policy, medical care, and almost everything else of real significance. They might be right on marajuana and a few similar fring issues.
In the case of Sarah Palin, they seem to be very important, which is partly because she has no B) whatsoever to balance her troubling record and near-instantaneous serial dishonesty.
Ah, another leftsit hypocrite. You don’t like her ’cause she’s on the other side, and may clean your clock. Serial dishonesty? Lie much?

You support a "Chicago machine" politician with a terrorist sponser. The left is absolutly vile . . .

 
Written By: Don
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The proof is this the business about the travel allowances she receives from the state. The point is not that she took more than she should have. The point is that she took everything that she was legally allowed to take.
She sold the jet. So clearly she didn’t take "everything that she was legally allowed to take."

It is amazing the pass you morons give Obama, and how far you dig on Palin. What’s worse is that the MSM is just as bad.


 
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Here, Don, I’ll try a straight response in the off-chance it leads you to act less obnoxious.
I’m acting obnoxious because most of the left, including you, are beyond the pale. You are carrying water for an anti-American fu*kwad and attacking a decent woman.

Is Obama anti-American? You clearly don’t care. His associations suggest he is. Yes, I question his patriotism. And also that of his supporters who are aware of these issues and brush them off.

Why did Ayers make Obama the execuitive of his leftist foundation? Why did he kick off Obama’s political campaign? Looks like a sponser to me. So, did Obama trick Ayers? Or is Ayers the terrorist getting the president he wants with Obama?

When you throw in Obama’s church and his wife’s "proud" statement, and his commie offical blogger, and so on, it suggests that Ayers is in fact getting the president he wants . . . if Obama wins.
 
Written By: Don
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You are carrying water for an anti-American fu*kwad and attacking a decent woman.
She’s the vice-presidential candidate, Don, not your poor widdle kid sister. Her nickname in high school was "Barracuda", and it wasn’t invented by Democrats. Subtle little clues like this, as well as the number of Alaskan Republicans that seem to hate her guts, might at some point clue you in that you have no idea who you’re talking about. But by the time you pull your head out of your a** far enough to see that, her kids will be running for President, if they can stay out of jail.
The left is absolutly vile
Scratch out left, insert right, and you sound like a "Kos Kid". Wear it with pride.

 
Written By: glasnost
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Note that Glasnost has no problem with "God D@mn America!" or Ayers stomping on the flag.

The only "serial dishonesty" has been by the Demofascists continual vicious lies about Palin.
 
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