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Where’s the Media?
Posted by: McQ on Monday, September 15, 2008

Where's the 3,000 word expose about this:



A couple of points about the older vid. It again shows Obama being questioned on his experience as he runs for Congress (a race he lost, btw). More importantly though, it shows him using his experience with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as his "resume" for being experienced enough to serve.

Questions:

1. Why isn't he using it now, especially since it would appear to be the closest thing he has to executive experience?

2. Why isn't the media asking that very same question and seeking the answer?
 
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Why isn’t he using it now, especially since it would appear to be the closest thing he has to executive experience?
That would be because his answer to "what experience qualifies you" is: experience schmexperience, I have the judgement to lead this country and you can’t trust that lying sack McCain to do the same. Or his war-with-Russia-starting running mate.
 
Written By: Retief
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Retief, as Mickey Kaus said just today, if the Democrats hew to that line, they will lose.

And they’ll deserve to.

I know you guys out on the left think that line works. I know you chuckle with each other about what a liar McCain is, and how stupid wingnuts are, and all that. You just keep on doing that, and get your 45% and endure another four years of hating a Republican president. Because if Obama doesn’t stop talking in a milder way than what you just said, and if his supporters don’t learn how to talk to people that don’t believe as a matter of faith that Republicans are evil liars, it’s going to happen.

I’m not voting for McCain. I’m not voting for anyone this time around. But one doesn’t have to be a McCain supporter to see the stupidity of Obama’s strategy, and that his supporters like you are woefully out of touch.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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"I have the judgement to lead this country..."
So we’re just supposed to trust him because he says so, right? Only people who already agree with his ideology are fine with that, because to them, experience doesn’t matter. A pine cone, as long as it’s properly progressive, would suit them.
 
Written By: Grimshaw
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Just wondering about that earlier Chicago interview; did he give any additional specifics then to what the Annenberg Challenge achieved and what his responsibilities were? Or was that 1-2 second mention all it got? It seems that just doling out mucho dinero should be thin gruel even by "community organizer" standards. Of course, that could be part of the reason why he lost that congressional race, ironically.
 
Written By: CR
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David Brin, author of The Postman and science fiction, has an interesting blog where he gives advice for getting out the vote for Obama.

The current topic involves absentee votes and converting the "ostriches," "monsters," "looneys" and those sufferring from "psychopathology" on the conservative side.

I’ve been debating there for a while and I am close to being banned. Take a look if you’re interested. Contrary Brin: The Under-Appreciated Issues that Nobody Talks About
 
Written By: huxley
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Huxley,

I paid that Brin post you linked a visit, and I didn’t see anything particularly unusual about Brin’s comments. He’s relatively naive about politics, and thinks that conservative Republicans do all the bad stuff, with the implication that liberal Democrats are largely wonderful.

Most amusing is the implicit (correct me if I’m wrong) suggested solution that if only The One could be elected the country can be saved.

I’m calling him naive, as opposed to nasty, because he sounds almost sincere, if more than a little juvenile (what would you expect from a scientist and a writer). He actually thinks that students but one to four years out of American high schools, where they learn nothing about American history or political traditions or its market economy) harbor the substantial wisdom needed to direct the future of the country—a suggestion that in itself indicates a fantasist at work.

He doesn’t appear to know a damn thing about real, as opposed to imagined, political history, or how capitalism works (i.e., in the broadest terms, generates prosperity), or why social!sm doesn’t work (or even that that is what Obama and the Democrats are largely about).

He also doesn’t seem to have a clue as to who Obama actually is.

Other than that, he’s right on the money.

Pleas feel free to quote me at length, or entirely, over there if you run out of things to say.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
Thanks for taking a look, Martin.

David Brin was one of my fave SF authors some years back. I was surprised to discover through interaction with him on his blog that he is, as typical for a leftist, an authoritarian at heart, and if one disagrees with him too much.

He claims to want to persuade conservatives to his side, but he starts with the assumption that they are either "ostriches" (those too ignorant to know better) or "monsters" (those who knowledgeably agree with the Iraq War).

If one presses back, he starts to rant:
Yes, I have a point of view. That the GOP has betrayed America with a relentlessness that has undermined every strength we had and sucked almost two TRILLION dollars out of our national life while fomenting a culture war that is tearing us apart without reason...

If you disagree with those FACTS...
And if you disagree with those FACTS and Brin’s relentless hostility, you are insulted, abused and eventually threatened with banning.

I give Q&O credit for allowing the erb’s and mkultra’s who show up here, a hearing.
 
Written By: huxley
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David Brin, author of The Postman and science fiction, has an interesting blog where he gives advice for getting out the vote for Obama.
What would you expect of someone who would write a story where the key to American civilization is the postal service?
 
Written By: Don
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That would be because his answer to "what experience qualifies you" is: experience schmexperience, I have the judgement to lead this country and you can’t trust that lying sack McCain to do the same.
Not only does Obama lack for experience, he lacks for judgment as well.
 
Written By: Don
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I give Q&O credit for allowing the erb’s and mkultra’s who show up here, a hearing.
Well, sure, there’s nothing like a visit from Erb. He’s a great teacher, after a manner of speaking.

Brin and his blog are gagingly superficial, hence his necessary defensiveness. Apparently, no conservative or person on the right ever satsifactorily answers his, or his commentors’, questions. Of course, there will never be satisfactory answers to questions that sit atop mountains of unexamined premises, unless the answer implicitly stipulates to said premises.

It’s not a very wholesom place, that blog, but it wouldn’t take long for a tactical team composed of, oh, five or six of the regulars at Q&O to break most of the furniture over there. But that would never happen because the banning would commence almost immediately.

The apalling ignorance of American political history is that blog’s most vulnerable weakness, as witnessed by the attempt to claim that the last eight years, the years of the fictional character who I call "Booooosh," are some sort of historic catastrophe for America. That, of course, is the intentional work of the fulminant Leftist imagination.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
I give Q&O credit for allowing the erb’s and mkultra’s who show up here, a hearing.
I enjoy pointing and laughing, myself. Why kick them out?

I sometimes wonder how someone like Erb, who has often shown signs of intelligence, can come back here and show his face after some of the things he says. Like his defense of Kerry despite the obvious lies about Cambodia, his defense of Carter, now his deranged attitude towards Palin, etc.
 
Written By: Don
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Oh, another Erbism: Obama has better experience than Bush did in 2000!
 
Written By: Don
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I enjoy pointing and laughing, myself. Why kick them out?
Kind of like Little Lefty Abbot and Costellos, aren’t they?
 
Written By: The Gonzman
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Huxley, as far as Brin & Co. are concerned, you’re a "probationary personality."
 
Written By: Ernest Brown
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Huxley.
Wow - whole new aspect on Brin for me.

Pity, I’ll never be able to read another of his books without seeing him as a liberal petty tyrant. I would have hoped he could be open minded enough to perhaps consider his list of evil behaviors is not to be found ONLY on the conservative side of the house. I gather not.
And this despite the evidence in front of him every day, there is plenty of pox for both houses.

BDS is a far reaching disease it seems.

Meanwhile though, Huxley, how DARE you question his terminology for the benighted? Be civil, suck up to the famous author and help the echo chamber run some more echo tests.
I’m betting Dr Brin will have to come up with some new plans for fixing democracy come Nov 5th.
 
Written By: looker
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...but it wouldn’t take long for a tactical team composed of, oh, five or six of the regulars at Q&O to break most of the furniture over there. But that would never happen because the banning would commence almost immediately.
Martin — I suspect so. For the record, I just answered all my mail at the current Brin topic. We will see if my posts survive.

My experiences of being banned, frozen, censored, and lynched have almost always been on left/lib blogs and bulletin boards.

looker — Yes, it’s sad. I read bunches of Brin back in the 80s and enjoyed his books. In his non-political topics, Brin is still interesting.
 
Written By: huxley
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Oh, I’ll be the first to admit, I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything I’ve read of his.
As I say, I’m never going to be able to look at his stuff in quite the same light after I read down through the posts until I came to his "A Ban upon you Huxley!" post.

Sat back and thought WTF mate? THAT’S your idea of being uncivil? or is it the only way you could respond without actually addressing the questions. I might point out, he started it with his post, I’d interpret that as opportunity to discuss it. What was he looking for, discussion or adulation?

Then again, it IS his site, so...as he wills in his own house.

But to me when you start out the game by giving the other side names indicating you think they’re a collection of essentially confused, ignorant, willfully stupid or just corrupt individuals it strikes me you’re pretty entrenched in your position and aren’t interested in dialogue and prefer diatribe.

Sorta of "give em a fair trial, followed by a decent hanging" outlook.
 
Written By: looker
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Huxley, if I didn’t know better, I’d think you were trying to get me to jump in over at Brin’s site. I did visit just now and I’ve got to tell you that Brin’s solipsism is just a little too, ah, solipsistic (and solipsistic solipsism is the worst kind) for my tastes. Where would one start with that clown? You, he says nastily to you, better contain your nastiness. He tells you that you are whining as he accuses you of ad hominem.

His idea of a discussion is where you drop your hands and he punches you in the face. And I don’t mean to insult you here, huxley, but you are one of the more mild-mannered and polite arguers around the internet. Hell, you’re even nice to Erb, at least as nice as someone can be before Erb’s had you chase him around his mulberry bush ten times.

I’m not a real reader of Sci-Fi, and I’ve never even heard of Brin. Perhaps that’s where my lack of interest begins.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
"I did visit just now and I’ve got to tell you that Brin’s solipsism is just a little too, ah, solipsistic"

Oh, yeah? And just what metric are you using?

Jumpin’ Joshua, what a boring, long-winded, pretentious site. That guy Zork really is malevolent, inflicting all that verbosity on everyone. I darned near got carpal tunnel syndrome just trying to scroll past his endless drivel.
 
Written By: timactual
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Sorta of "give em a fair trial, followed by a decent hanging" outlook.
looker — Pretty much. I came into Brin’s website civil, but the basic setup requires, as Martin notes, you to drop your hands while Brin and everyone else punches you in the face.

I can find ways around that, but I’ll admit that, long-term, it’s a losing proposition
 
Written By: huxley
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Huxley, if I didn’t know better, I’d think you were trying to get me to jump in over at Brin’s site.
Martin — You’re welcome to, but it’s enough to get a witness. Brin and his commenters compose a right cozy little world and I’m human enough to be confused by their peculiar solidarity.
I don’t mean to insult you here, huxley, but you are one of the more mild-mannered and polite arguers around the internet.
Actually, I do try. What attracted me to Brin’s site was the possibility of dialog across the red-blue divide. I was stunned that he made no effort whatsoever to reach across, but immediately began ranting at me, to such an extent that after reading his posts I felt like I needed to clean the spittle from the lenses of my eyeglasses.
 
Written By: huxley
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Jumpin’ Joshua, what a boring, long-winded, pretentious site. That guy Zork really is malevolent, inflicting all that verbosity on everyone. I darned near got carpal tunnel syndrome just trying to scroll past his endless drivel.
timactual — Don’t I know the feeling! I have no idea how those guys tolerate Zorgon—he behaves like that in every effin’ thread—and obnoxious to boot.

However, he is obsequious to the Great Brin and that makes him OK.
 
Written By: huxley
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"I have no idea how those guys tolerate Zorgon"

I think it may be a mutual admiration society for those too superficial to be appreciated on real sites. I doubt that they really bother to critically (in the good sense) read anything. It seems that Brin may have read Pythagoras, come upon the passage "Man is the measure of all things", and concluded that he is The Man.
 
Written By: timactual
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By the way, I commend you on your patience, perseverance, and civility. You are a better man than I am. I left one comment, and I am sure it was not well received, although I am not going back to check *shudder*.
 
Written By: timactual
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I think it may be a mutual admiration society.

timactual — That it is, and Brin rejoices in his domination of them. The others are now in total shun mode with regard to this humble narrator. However, Brin did challenge me:
Seriously. We await a single unambiguous and demonstrable and provable metric by which America — or Pax Americana — (two different things) — are better off than 8 years ago. One.

Contrary Brin
I replied but I can tell my days are numbered over there. I got my answer that these people have no good faith in interacting with those to the right of them. It’s just the usual leftist truncheon — you are either with us or a moron or a monster, and You Will Be Dealt With.

Thanks for checking the action over there and even posting!
 
Written By: huxley
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Huxley,
I see Mr Brin’s enlightened personana continues with his how many republican’s joke.
Yes indeed, conversion through mockery. I can see he’s really truly sincere in his approach of ’convincing’ people who label themselves ’Republican’ to come around to his way of thinking.

Is it a good thing that he makes me appreciate Glasnost and Pogue? 90% of the time I feel like I could sit down and have a beer with those two, provided we stayed away from heavy politics, Brin, I think, not so much.
Pretty clear he doesn’t allow for ’honorable’ adversaries.
 
Written By: looker
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looker — And thanks to you too for looking in.

Brin is an exemplar IMO of how unhinged the left is these days. I can understand vehement disagreement but Brin has moved to a level beyond that. I showed that discussion to two close friends and they both said, get out, it’s not worth it, there is soemthing just wrong and sick about Bru’s little cyber community that makes any participation from an outsider pointless.
 
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