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So Bush and Republicans wanted to reform but those nasty congressional Democrats just wouldn’t let him? Ah yes I remember well the Democratic 106th, 107th and 108th congresses. Oh wait... |
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Yeah, you know that guy...Senator Filibuster.
Ah, but you know he’s a Republican now, and always has been.
Huh Retief.
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I hope the McCain camp can pull footage of these statements.
It would make an absolutely devastating ad.
And I’m sure there are some Republicans who are in just as deep. But McCain isn’t, and that’s the point. |
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Keith_Indy
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Given the Democratic response to Fannie and Freddie Mac, what lurks ahead for Social Security ? |
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The same thing they’ve always said
"there’s no problem, no crisis"
until it’s to late, and then they’ll say
"it’s the Republicans fault" |
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Keith_Indy
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Out of curiosity, what did the dems do to prevent this situation for the nearly two years that they held the majorities in both houses of Congress? And how did Bush and the GOP stop them?
Just askin’... |
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So when Sen. Dodd claims he did nothing in return for that friendly mortgage he was accurate, depending on what your definition of nothing is. |
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Why is John McCain not hitting the talk shows with this? Where is his ad featuring clips of his 2005 speech or Barney Frank in 2003? Who is running this guy’s campaign? He could hit it out of the park with this one. |
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He could hit it out of the park with this one. Or is there something else we don’t yet know about.... |
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Representative Jim Leach, Republican of Iowa, said Freddie Mac — short for the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation — had borrowed $125 million in the bond markets on Monday at 6.99 percent, an interest rate reflecting the market’s belief that the Treasury had effectively guaranteed repayment.
Freddie Mac, whose charter calls for it to invest primarily in mortgages and mortgage securities, then used the $125 million to buy corporate bonds issued by the Philip Morris Companies with identical 10-year maturities yielding 7.68 percent.
Mr. Leach said that such an investment strategy might be legal, but that it was not appropriate. ’’Freddie Mac was established by an act of Congress for a specific purpose: to advance home ownership, not to facilitate tobacco sales,’’ he said. ’’What Freddie Mac’s action amounts to is taxpayer subsidization of corporate arbitrage and, implicitly, the tobacco industry.’’ — April 11, 1997 So where did this story lead ? |
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And the next time you hear Obama try to lay this exclusively at the feet of Republicans, you can pretty much point to the same information to refute that obvious bit of nonsense. Hmmm. So this bill never passed because of Democrats?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/one-finger-salute/
The Ohio Republican who headed the House financial services committee until his retirement after mid-term elections last year, blames the mess [at Fannie and Freddie] on ideologues within the White House as well as Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve.
The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley, now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.
He fumes about the criticism of his House colleagues. “All the handwringing and bedwetting is going on without remembering how the House stepped up on this,” he says. “What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute .”
Now, I honestly don’t know much about what the democratic party might or might not have blocked in 2003, despite what I see here, which I trust as far as I can spit. I can imagine that, in a fit of overprotectism of their campaign cash, dashed with idealism about getting loans to poor people, various Democratic senators might have blocked a bill that might have been good.
But as this former Republican congressman seems to have a completely different story. The Bush Administration? Interested in some kind of financial regulation? Laughable. Contradicts everything any of their crew ever said in public for the first seven years of their term.
And the next time you hear Obama try to lay this exclusively at the feet of Republicans, you can pretty much point to the same information to refute that obvious bit of nonsense. And remember, in 2005, the Senate was essentially an even body in terms of Dems and Reps. It was 55-45, and there was no filibuster. The bill died in committee because it wasn’t supported by Republicans in the committee. If it had been, it could have passed even if every Democrat in the committee failed to vote for it. What was the vote, I wonder? How did it line up? Funny that you’ve failed to include that.
What a funny little alternate reality zone this place has become..
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Or is there something else we don’t yet know about.... Well, we know a lot and it doesn’t look pretty for the Democrats. Yet they just lie louder.
But then again, the MSM is covering for them. |
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http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-5597303_ITMThe Senate moved its own GSE reform bill—the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (S. 190)—out of committee, but along a strict party-line vote. The split between Republicans and Democrats centered on how much to limit the GSEs’ portfolios (see Mortgage Banking, September 2005, p. 8).
Stephen Naismith, HUD assistant secretary for congressional intergovernmental affairs, told attendees at MBA’s 92nd Annual Conference & Expo in Orlando, Florida, in October that the White House supports S. 190 over H.R. 1461 because of objections it has to the affordable-housing fund, and it wants a firm ceiling on GSE investments.
"HUD has already increased the affordable-housing goals for the GSEs, but there are other ways of getting the GSEs to increase their affordable-housing commitments," said Naismith. "We think there are other ways to get at the issue and make sure the GSEs are increasing their goals, and not have a fund that we think may be used for unintended purposes." So, the White House wanted S. 190. Sounds like Bush was right on this. |
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In my previous post, H.R. 1461 is the bill Krugman was wining about. Did he mention S. 190? |
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Well, I read what Krugman wrote. Krugman didn’t mention S. 190, which amounts to a lie by obmission. So, our pet leftist Glastnost didn’t lie, he just quoted a lier.
Way to go Glassy, I’m proud of ya. |
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Yet another thing. The housing bubble peaked around 2005, so by then the House and Senate bills were likely too little, too late. Or really, just plain too late.
Maybe if Bush got what he wanted in 2003, it would have done some good. |
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"Barack Obama? Well he hadn’t shown up on the scene yet."
He was elected to the Senate in November 2004.
So he was most certainly in the Senate in 2005-06. You just didn’t see him anywhere near this issue. |
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"Who is running this guy’s campaign?"
Why, your usual Republican wizard strategists and master political analysts, of course. The political equivalent of the economic geniuses who ran Freddie and Fannie. |
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I’ll say it again for glasnost...And I’m sure there are some Republicans who are in just as deep. But McCain isn’t, and that’s the point. And I have no problem hoisting those who didn’t support it in committee up on their own petard.
They deserve it. Republicans and democrats.The political equivalent of the economic geniuses who ran Freddie and Fannie. No, they’re over in the Obama camp as actual economic advisors... |
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Keith_Indy
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McCain doesn’t remember this speech. Beyond that he probably did not know what he was saying as a free market friendly aid probably wrote it. He was to busy worrying about which amendments to attack next. He had already been successful in shredding the first amendment by then. And had set his sights on 4. |
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McCain goes on the attack in his stump speech today...
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/18/mccain-goes-on-offense-links-obama-to-credit-crisis/Senator Obama talks a tough game on the financial markets but the facts tell a different story. He took more money from Fannie and Freddie than any Senator but the Democratic chairman of the committee that regulates them. He put Fannie Mae’s CEO who helped create this disaster in charge of finding his Vice President. Fannie’s former General Counsel is a senior advisor to his campaign. Whose side do you think he is on? When I pushed legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Senator Obama was silent. He didn’t lift a hand to avert this crisis. While the leaders of Fannie and Freddie were lining the pockets of his campaign, they were sowing the seeds of the financial crisis we see today and enriching themselves with millions of dollars in payments. That’s not change, that’s what’s broken in Washington.
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Those same Congressional leaders who give Senator Obama his marching orders are now saying that this mess isn’t their fault and they aren’t going to take any action on this crisis until after the election. Senator Obama’s own advisers are saying that crisis will benefit him politically. My friends, that is the kind of me-first, country-second politics that are broken in Washington.
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Today Senator Obama’s running mate said that raising taxes is patriotic. Raising taxes in a tough economy isn’t patriotic. It’s not a badge of honor. It’s just dumb policy. |
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McCain doesn’t remember this speech. Beyond that he probably did not know what he was saying as a free market friendly aid probably wrote it. He was to busy worrying about which amendments to attack next. He had already been successful in shredding the first amendment by then. And had set his sights on 4. Meds, Scott, take your meds. You sound like 30 lbs of crazy in a 10 lb bag. |
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The 109th Senate was 55 GOP, 44 Dem, 1 Independent. This is "essentially even"? The current Senate is 49-49-2. If it was the fault of the 2005 Democratic minority for not passing this legislation, why is it not the fault of the 2005 GOP majority? Why is it not the fault of the 2007 GOP "minority" It seems that "neolibertarian" = GOP shill.
I say this as a libertarian-libertarian. I’m not voting for Obama in November. Both major parties suck. |
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The 109th Senate was 55 GOP, 44 Dem, 1 Independent. When you have to have a 60 vote majority to pass anything then yes, that’s essentially even. In the Senate the minority holds much of the power because of that.It seems that "neolibertarian" = GOP shill. Or it could mean libertarian-libertarian = ignorant. |
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You only need 60 votes if there’s a filibuster. The bill never even made it to the floor. Where was the filibuster threat? Sheldon Richman did a quick debunking of the McCain "reform". |
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You only need 60 votes if there’s a filibuster. The bill never even made it to the floor. Where was the filibuster threat? Who said there was - I said the split was essentially even and that was why.
Your cite doesn’t debunk anything - it simply disagrees that the solution McCain favored is the best solution. Of course the writer, with present knowledge, thinks he has a better solution. 20/20 foresight?
Of course both he and you continue to ignore the fact that McCain was actually trying to address the solution at the time while freshman Senator Obama (oh wait, he’s still a freshman Senator, isn’t he?) never said a thing and didn’t manage to find time to cosponsor the bill.
But he certainly had time plenty of time to tuck in behind Chris Dodd as the Senator who took the most lobbying dollars from Freddy and Fannie, didn’t he? |
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"You only need 60 votes if there’s a filibuster. The bill never even made it to the floor. Where was the filibuster threat?" see http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-4747361_ITM for contemporaneous report as to what went on in the Senate Committee and why it did not get voted on by the full Senate...Supports "McQ". You dims would not know the truth if it was running for President.
"GSE reform bill clears Senate Committee along party-line vote.(Business Alert) Publication Date: 01-SEP-05 Publication Title: Mortgage Banking Format: Online Author: Wisniowski, Charles"
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No mention yet of the Zero-Down Initiative or of the prime borrowers:
Zero-Down Initiative boston.com business
Zero-Down Initiative whitehouse.gov
High End Foreclosures realtytrac.com
After the 2005 Zero-Down initiative, foreclosures went from about 100,000 to 247,000, according to bloomberg.com
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Correction: It should read "1,000,000 in 2005 to 2,470,000 foreclosures at the end of January 2008.
S. 2856 [109th]The Financial Services Regulatory Relief Act of 2006, was approved on October 13, 2006 after which the total number of foreclosures started to rise severely. There are certainly many other contributing factors, but the timing of this legislation is of interest. It was passed with support from both sides of Congress. |
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