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"Environment" to get "rights" in Ecuador
Posted by: McQ on Friday, September 26, 2008

I hope they enjoy whatever standard of living they have today, because my bet is if this passes, not much else will ever be built there as "nature" will keep whoever attempts it constantly in court:
The South American republic of Ecuador will next week consider what many countries in the world would say is unthinkable. People will be asked to vote on Sunday on a new constitution that would give Ecuador's tropical forests, islands, rivers and air similar legal rights to those normally granted to humans. If they vote yes - and polls show that 56% are for and only 23% are against - then an already approved bill of rights for nature will be introduced, and new laws will change the legal status of nature from being simply property to being a right-bearing entity.

The proposed bill states: "Natural communities and ecosystems possess the unalienable right to exist, flourish and evolve within Ecuador. Those rights shall be self-executing, and it shall be the duty and right of all Ecuadorian governments, communities, and individuals to enforce those rights."
This is liberalism and environmentalism run amuck. It is, however, also it's logical end. The brand of enviro-whackos which push this sort of nonsense are the same bunch who believe that man is not a part of nature but some sort of alien species which attacking and destroying all that is good. Instead of working toward developing rational policies that help protect the environment while also improving the lives of human beings, they opt for absolutist approaches that exclude humanity from their extremist calculations.

And, of course, they completely misuse the concept of "rights" to do so.

The result? The distinct possibility of court battles over every single attempt to develop anything in Ecuador if this becomes law:
"In the same way, compensation is measured in terms of that injury to a person or people. Under the new system, it will be measured according to damage to the ecosystem. The new system is, in essence, an attempt to codify sustainable development. The new laws would grant people the right to sue on behalf of an ecosystem, even if not actually injured themselves."
Anyone can sue for any reason they can dream up to stop progress if they determine that nature's "rights" are being violated.

It is nothing more than absurd invitation to chaos and poverty.
 
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Rainforest gets "rights"?

Do they vote? Do they pay taxes?
 
Written By: shark
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I noticed that the driving force behind this is Thomas Linzey, an American environmentalist busybody. Here’s an interesting quote from one of his cohorts in the so-called "Democracy School":
Says Smith of Democracy School: “This is really a long term organizing and education effort to get more and more people to view things through a new framework. Democracy is for people and rights are for people, not for corporations.”
Rights are for people, eh?
 
Written By: the wolf
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Polar Bears have more rights than Unborn People.

 
Written By: Koan
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What are they going to do with those Amazonian tribesmen who mercilessly murder innocent wild boars with spears?
 
Written By: Jimmy the Dhimmi
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"You cant build your new burger king next to my mcdonalds, there is a tree there. Respect his right to LIVE!!...Im SUPER Serial!"
 
Written By: josh b
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"Those rights shall be self-executing"

I am not quite sure how to interpret that.


"What are they going to do with those Amazonian tribesmen who mercilessly murder innocent wild boars with spears?"

See above.


Evidently Ecuadorians enjoy living in third-world squalor.
 
Written By: timactual
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Hate to sound paranoid, but this is the work of the Red Menace.

Anti-Capitalists (aka Social!sts and Commun!sts) that moved into such movements in order to obstruct successful capitalism.

Part of it is spite. But there’s another purpose. If they can make things miserable enough, people will embrace social!st practices. If they can make it bad enough, they can get people to chuck capital!sm all together.

An example is the Mortgage bailout. Like I said, the investment banks douced themselves in gasoline. But Mortgage practices mandated by the goverment for social engineering was the handgrenade that set it all off. Also FM became so big and the delay in the situation coming to light were both the government was behind it. That lead the investment banks to get deeper and deeper. If FM was replaced with a half dozen or more smaller private institions, one or two more poorly run versions would likely have gone down first and been a warning for the rest.

However, the mess is blamed on deregulation (aka out of control capitalism). Social!st mess up the system, then blame capitalism. A theme that seems to be repeated over and over.
 
Written By: jpm100
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What will happen is that the Ecuadorians who can will come to the US.

My wife is Ecuadorian (well, she was born here but her mother and father were legal immigrants). A lot of her family later came to the US, flying in with visas and never leaving . . .
 
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I hope I do not live to see
a human sued, by a tree,
 
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