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Who is the fascist here?
Posted by: McQ on Friday, September 26, 2008

You're a politician running for office. The opposition runs an ad you feel distorts your position on an issue. What are your choices:

A. Run an ad that disputes the allegations in the opposition ad.

B. Factually protest the alleged distortions on your website and in the media.

C. Both A and B.

D. Use legal intimidation, i.e. threatening the license of any broadcast media outlet that runs the opposition ad.

The Obama campaign chose D:
Failure to prevent the airing of “false and misleading advertising” may be “probative of an underlying abdication of licensee responsibility” Cosmopolitan Broad. Corp v. FCC, 581 F.2d 917, 927 (D.C. Cir. 1978).
Insty has a whole bunch more. More here as well.

And, of course, that's not the only method the Obama campaign has used in an attempt to shut critics up.

"New politics" indeed.
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Maybe they should set up a government program to test and verify all claims in all commercials and then approve them for airing.. it’d certainly be easier than all the stations doing the work themselves..
Written By: phuknjrk
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set up a government program to test and verify all claims in all commercials
I think that they tried that in the Soviet Union, but the airbrushes finally broke during the verification process.
Written By: Martin McPhillips
No, that’s a great idea. We could call it the Ministry of something. Hmmmmmm, I have it!!
The Ministry of Truth, shortened to Minitrue.

And maybe a Ministry that makes sure that people like our Dear Leaders, we could call it the Ministry of Love, shortened to Miniluv.

And to make sure that people can’t lie and hate, we’ll ’fix’ our language, hmmm, maybe we could call it Newspeak.

Yeah, that’s the ticket. Why didn’t someone think of this before?
Written By: Veeshir
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But only right-wingers — conservatives & libertarians — have EVER been fascists!!
Written By: Koan
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Sort of goes along with those Il Duce-like coins the Chosen One has been having minted in his own honor.
Written By: Bilwick
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Sort of goes along with those Il Duce-like coins the Chosen One has been having minted in his own honor.
And the Presidential Seal, and the temple to Obama.

More of the same pattern here.
Written By: looker
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As Mr. Obama said on his July 2 speech, "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set... We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." I don’t want a civilian national security force suppressing dissent as is being done in Venezuela. He definitely is messing with the 1st Amendment and his proposals on guns and ammo on the 2nd. With Mr. Obama as president, the 1st and 2nd
Amendments are in jeopardy.
Written By: AMR
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Obama Derangement Syndrome? You people don’t even know what fascism is. If legal threats = fascism, we live in a nation populated almost exclusively by fascist businessmen, not to men hundreds of millions of fascist citizens who have been known to utter legal threats from time to time.

Seriously, this issue stands head and shoulders above the rest of your rebetoire for the sheer brazenness of its whiny hypocrisy and utter lack of self-awareness. Try coming up with a consistent standard of appropriate vs. inappropriate behavior.. then write the 11,000 missing posts from the past eight years expressing your retroactive upsetness when the government distributed unacknowledged propaganda videos to television networks and bribed commentators, when Ari Fleischer got up on television and told people to watch what they say, when the Bush campaign threw legal charges at people who made the mistake of showing up to their rallies in opposition, when the U.S. DOJ threw Democratic political candidates in jail on trumped-up charges, using politically motivated prosecutions that have been denounced by 48 attorneys general... when the DOD opened up widespread surveillance and infiltration of obviously harmless domestic associational groups..when the government misused national security letters to seize library records by the hundreds of thousands of request and placed the recipients under indefinite gag orders.. I could go on. I could fill f*cking pages.

I mean, when you suddenly develop a generalized sense of outrage when organizations send letters to people making false statements telling them that they may be in legal trouble for doing so, give me a call. Until then, i hope you’re getting a good sense for how someone outside the conservative tank sees this stuff - a welcome taste of your own medicine. I hope the Obama campaign sues the NRA for the total value of his presidential campaign expenditures, times a multiple of ten for punitive damanges.

I suspect that real libertarian websites - say, Reason, for example - share a similar sense of deep skepticism at the utter political hackery exposed by the sudden rediscovery of a desire to protect free debate on the part of the Psuedo-Libertarian Right.

Written By: glasnost
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widespread surveillance and infiltration of obviously harmless domestic associational groups.
Yeah like the weatherman. :)
when organizations send letters to people making false statements
then most of the MSM would be in jail.
Written By: capt joe
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Hey Glasshead, how about this lie.

Yeah, right, everything you say is true, everything on the other side is a lie.

Amazingly simple logical construct you have there. It makes it so easy to decide things, no thought processes needed.
Written By: capt joe
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Hey glassie, another lie for you.
Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.

Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son’s name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.
Written By: capt joe
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Over at Volokh ..

a) the prosecutors and sheriffs "also say they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate Missouri ethics laws."
b) it appears that Missouri election law generally doesn’t ban false statements in campaigns, and though it bars false designations of who sponsored an ad, it apparently applies only to state and local campaigns, not federal ones.

When applied to the Obama campaign in Missouri, the intersection of these two statements generates the null set, which leaves us with the TV story being purely a matter of intimidation, with no legal legs.
Written By: Neo
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I’m old enough to remember when the two things "liberals," for all their statism otherwise, consistently had it over conservatives: a commitment to free trade at a time when many American conservatives were economic nationalists; and a commitment to free speech. Boy, them days are gone forever.
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