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Read ’Em and Weep
Posted by: Dale Franks on Wednesday, October 15, 2008

We're still almost three weeks out, but at the moment, the electoral map looks like this:

Electoral College Map, 15 Oct 08

I'm not sure what it would take to turn this around for McCain. But if the polling numbers and the futures markets are anywhere near correct, this is the map we'll be seeing on election night.

That's politics for you. This is a strong Democratic cycle, so none of this should come as a particular surprise. Indeed, the surprise would be if we saw more red than blue.

On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter.

Even though Obama is clearly a tool of the Freemasons. And the Illuminati.
 
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Yep. That’s the way it looks today. If the economy gives us some respite, the race will tighten, but whether that will be enough is a longer shot than I like.

Still it ain’t over ’til it’s over.

The sort-of-good-news is that with foreign debt and recession, should Obama become president, he will have little leeway to launch his version of the New Deal.
 
Written By: huxley
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I don’t know about that. I think McCain will take Missourah (no, not Missouri), Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina. I’m basing this, of course, solely on my gut and my experience growing up in the South.

Ohio, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada are the ones that will decide it.

I still think Obama will probably win, but I have a feeling it will be a lot closer than most seem to think. If McCain can squeeze Colorado, he just may win it.

Best case scenario, McCain wins 274-264. Worst case scenario, Obama wins 298-240. Again, this is just my gut talking.
 
Written By: Jason
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Even though Obama is clearly a tool of the Freemasons. And the Illuminati.
And the Underpants Gnomes.
 
Written By: Joe R.
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On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter.
I think the conservative blogosphere has done a pretty reasonable job so far. The nuttier memes, such as the claim that Obama is a closet Muslim or wasn’t born in the States, are never really going to go away, but conservative blogs have taken pains to consider them seriously and squash them when proven false.

It’s going to be challenging simply because Obama, much like Clinton, is joined at the hip to a deeply corrupt political machine. We’re going to see a series of scandals, as with Clinton, and Obama’s enablers will attempt to suppress them. If we can maintain a standard of evidence and rigorously apply Ockham’s razor to these scandals as they emerge, we can make the case for a GOP congress in 2010 that will hold him to task.
 
Written By: ben
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(Sorry: Occam’s. Don’t know where I got that spelling from.)
 
Written By: ben
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On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter
Yes, because calling Obama a terrorist loving racist is clearly above the ODS gutter.
The Right is obviously heading down the same path they did during the "Clintons are murderers" years and the Left did during the "Bush is Hitler" years.

For examples to the current and continuing ODS, one only has to look no further than the comments on this very blog. Not to mentiong the four dozen or more posts from McQ about Wright or Ayers, as if Obama himself did or said anything similar.

To suggest that you, McQ, or anyone else here is not about to drop in the ODS gutter is just laughable.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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To suggest that you, McQ, or anyone else here is not about to drop in the ODS gutter is just laughable.
Yup - because there are those like Pogue who will call anything written about Obama in the future that even hints of being negative as ODS.

Or racist.

Or ...
 
Written By: McQ
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McCain will win the election.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
ODS will never take hold because it won’t have to. True "derangement syndromes," such as we’ve seen with BDS among the left the past eight years, are fueled on lies and deceit. The reality of an Obama presidency will be quite enough.
 
Written By: the wolf
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McQ - On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter.

Then:

McQ - Yup - because there are those like Pogue who will call anything written about Obama in the future that even hints of being negative as ODS.

I think that about covers it. ANY criticism of The Annointed One will be criticized and dismissed in turn as ODS or raaaacism!

Unless and until he screws up so spectacularly that even the MSM can’t cover it up, The Annointed One is bulletproof.
 
Written By: docjim505
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I think McCain should keep pointing out, re Obama and Obamanomics that beyond the kumbaya rhetoric, there’s an iron fist under the velvet glove, and that when the IRS and ATF agents show up to steal your money and your guns, they ain’t going to be packing love beads and incense sticks.

Also there’s an old NEW YORKER cartoon showing an IRS office with an IRS official is sitting at a desk and speaking to a forlorn-looking individual who’s obviously a taxpayer being audited. The caption: "It will help, Mr. Smith, if you stop thinking of it as your own money." That cartoon pretty much summarizes Obamanomics, and if they could buy the rights, McCain’s people shhould make it into posters and campaign flyers, substituting Obama for the IRS official and Joe the Plumber for the taxpayer, just to drive the point home.

However, it seems that the mood with the majority of voters is to take the Grand Inquisitor’s deal: "We’ll be your serfs, just feed us."
 
Written By: Bilwick
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Pogue, you see to have lost that playful sense of humor.

Does that mean you will start down the path to mk-dom pathology?
 
Written By: capt joe
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Aaaaah!! Not the eeeeevil Underpants Gnomes! Tell me it isn’t true! How many of our politicians are in the horrible grip of the Underpants Gnomes? I’m guessing at least Harry Reid.
 
Written By: Wacky Hermit
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pedro loves amedika. where else can a few poor people make such a difference? a few poor people brought down zee entire economy. a few other poor folks have shredded the fabric of democracy in their lust to install someone who pals around with terrists. think what we can accomplish if all zee poor people banded together? pedro calls on all poor folks - everyone making less than 5,000,000.00 per year in amedican dollars - i call on you to ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do to this great country.

god bless amedika!
 
Written By: pedro the illegal alien
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Saw a great video the other night about body language which included the use of one’s voice to instill a message in the audience. It pointed out the Obama had a wonderful melodious voice and that he had cadence similar to a revival preacher that he had honed to a razor’s edge. Using these tools, pols have for many years been able to convince voters of miracles....that night was day and black was white without them engaging any critical thinking abilities.

The map is a vivid, visual indicator of how little people in this country are engaging in rational, critical thinking. If McCain won’t go after The Big O with the abundance of ammunition available then I have to conclude McCain really doesn’t want it. Sad to say...my vote won’t be ’for’ McCain; but it WILL be ’against’ Big Bad Barry and all his terrorist/racist/Marxist baggage.

 
Written By: Unscripted Thoughts
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I think it is going to be a close election, and that a lot of the blue on that map will actually be red.

The polls are over-polling Democrats, I believe, based upon the heavy upswing in Democratic registrations, many of which will not represent real votes. This is due to a mix of ACORN (and related) get-out-the-vote efforts to register anything they can find, actual real voter registration among those less prone to follow through, and even Republicans registering to vote in the Dem primary (a small number perhaps, but this counts to lower the number of registered Repubs while increasing the number of Dems).

In all, I think this election in particular has over inflated Dem numbers, and skewed the polls.

My prediction is a very close race up to the wire, and a possible (but not probable) McCain win. If McCain does win, expect the left to howl and claim fraud and racism, and even riot.
 
Written By: Don
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I plan on diving into that ODS gutter immediately.

;)

 
Written By: shark
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There is too much blue on the map. MO, VA, NC and FL will go red in the end because of "Joe", that would be the plumber one. The battle will be OH and PA. The issue is about the government and how much help you want or don’t. The voters need to be reminded that while employement is going down, it is not down in the government, that should worry everyone. Also, government does not need to ask you for your permission to raise your taxes, they will take what they want. McCain is not for small government, but the "O" is for really BIG government, come to IA and you will see what I mean. Our state and local politicians are trying to out dual each other on who can give away the most, it’s awful. The financial melt down is bad, the coming "where is my handout" meltdown will be the back breaker. Sad.
 
Written By: Commander Tom
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My prediction is a very close race up to the wire, and a possible (but not probable) McCain win. If McCain does win, expect the left to howl and claim fraud and racism, and even riot.
Gallup has the race at 2-points today (49-47) using its "traditional" polling technique for likely voters. That’s at the margin of error.

The Ayers thing has had an impact; the Jesse Jackson comments on Israel have had an impact, still building; the "spread the wealth around" comment by Obama is still building.

Keep hammering.

 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Additionally, Rasmussian indicates that there are a lot of "soft" Obama supporters, people who are inclined to vote Obama but can be "turned". Obama has an advantage, but it isn’t solid. Combined with his tendency to be a weak finisher, and you get the idea this could be a big let down for the left.
 
Written By: Don
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Oh, and Martin: I imagine a lot of Jews are concerned with Obama and are considering voting Republican for the first time in their lives.

Jessie’s comments is just another in a long line of indications that Obama would be bad for Israel and for Jews in general.
 
Written By: Don
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On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter.
You understand, of course, that the demagogues like mk and pogue, whose essential nature is dishonesty, cannot, and do not even try to, distinguish between legitimate criticism and off-the-deep-end derangement syndrome. "Bush irresponsibly increased entitlement spending" and "Bush is Hitler" do not register as any different in their minds.

There was a contingent of vocal right wing loonies during the Clinton admin that accused him of such things as assassinating political foes, and there will likely be an even larger contingent if Obama is elected because of his BAF philosophy and anti-American associates. However, too many of us from the Libertarian/Conservative sphere have jobs and personal lives, not mention class and intelligence, to ever come within the orders-of-magnitude greater nuttiness we’ve seen from the DUmmies, Kos kids, and the Huffpos. It simply isn’t in us.

In the punitive taxation/normative economic environment that would accompany an Obama administration, I’m perfectly willing to trade off time that would have been spent in wealth-producing activities and funnel it into efforts to run the bastards back out. If I’m willing to do THAT, I’m certainly willing to put up a front and feign respect while I work tear out the foundations they stand on. Unlike the cry-baby Liberals who threatened to leave the US if Bush were elected, I cannot even be pushed into pretending to run off. I intend to work to help restore this to a free country or die in the effort, however long it takes. I’m not giving up now, I’m not giving up on election day, and no matter who gets elected, I’m not giving up after the election, either.

I can pretend to love the Marxist monstrosity they create just and smile in their faces as easily as they have pretended to love the United States of America all these years.

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still
- Silent Running

 
Written By: Augustus
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Rasmussian indicates that there are a lot of "soft" Obama supporters, people who are inclined to vote Obama but can be "turned".
I thought that McCain did very well last night. For those who were avoiding Republicans and only looking to punish them, but are not Democrats, I think that last night was the "Yeah, I could vote for McCain" night.

McCain is a very good campaigner and a great candidate—just on those terms. He has overcome the age problem: he is an older man, but he’s very sharp and affable, and his energy is good. And he has almost overcome the Bush problem: look at that Gallup likely voters poll — he’s within two points of Obama in a large-gap generic vote that favors Democrats.

Obama is purely a hype candidate. He is smooth, but you can get smooth lots of places, including the local used car dealership. The fact that he is constantly having to talk himself out of his own business is becoming more apparent to the larger electorate. Doubts. Voter have doubts. As the pressure builds on them in the closing days to make a wise choice, they’re going to move away from the doubts.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
On the plus side, no "Skull and Bones" idiocy is likely.

Well, okay, it’s actually certain that the mad will simply invent Obama’s membership, but...
 
Written By: Sigivald
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Martin — Fingers crossed. I’m not as confident.

It seems to me that on the whole the American people have slipped a couple notches in the commonsense and self-reliance departments. Today Obama looks more attractive than McGovern did in 1972, even though McGovern was a far more honorable and qualified candidate.
 
Written By: huxley
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I think The One will win as well, but let’s not forget the Bradley Effect. I still think some voters at the margin are saying they will vote for Obama, but when push comes to shove they either pull the McCain lever or stay home.
 
Written By: Marco
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I’m not as confident.
Well, maybe this will boost your confidence: Obama has never actually beaten a serious opponent. To win his U.S. Senate seat he beat substitute Alan Keyes after that Ryan guy had been scandlized out of the contest.

His state senate seat was originally won by disqualifying opponents.

And to get the presidential nomination, he did not actually beat Clinton at the polls. The Obama train stopped outside of the station. It was the superdelegates who put him over the top, under the threat that blacks would revolt if the nomination should be "taken" from Obama.

This is a man who voters have consistently seen trying to talk his way out of his own business.

It is possible that Obama is an electoral dog.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://newpaltzjournal.com
Augustus: "There was a contingent of vocal right wing loonies during the Clinton admin that accused him of such things as assassinating political foes,..."

Which ones?

All my experience with this stuff through the 90’s leaves me with this conclusion: I will be the judge of any given case of "derangement syndrome" only after I see that person’s work on the case material. This has a corollary: I judge their critics by the same standard.

"I can pretend to love the Marxist monstrosity they create just and smile in their faces as easily as they have pretended to love the United States of America all these years."

That’s sheer depravity.

I’ll be telling the truth as hard as I can.
 
Written By: Billy Beck
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This is a man who voters have consistently seen trying to talk his way out of his own business.

It is possible that Obama is an electoral dog.
Martin — Always good to hear from you. I am certain that whatever the polls say in November, Obama will not do as well. Not because he is black, but because no Democrat ever does as well as the polls say come election day.

I can’t say I’m chipper about this election, but I certainly have not give up. There have been too many surprises already plus Obama is the weakest and worst candidate the Democratic party has fielded in my lifetime. If there were not a perfect storm of circumstances supporting his victory, he’d be nowhere today.
 
Written By: huxley
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I should preface this comment by allowing that Dale, personally, probably doesn’t deserve being given the ODS label, so far anyway. I don’t think he likes the guy or gives him positive press, but manages to avoid fixating on trivial and/or dishonest stories and creating overarching theories of victimization.

Even Q, who I’d put on the fail/side of the pass/fail ODS test - well, there are a lot of people deeper on the far side of the jumped shark than Q. At least Q spends a significant amount of time writing posts on policy. Yeah, using silly, distorted, unfair, etc arguments, but.. it’s a question of degree, and the degree is.. well, I dunno. Medium.

But still, if by
On the bright side, this is our chance to show that we have the maturity to avoid dropping into the Obama Derangement Syndrome gutter.
You mean "we" as in "the conservative blogosphere", yes, you must be fooling yourself. Obama’s board of directors time with W. Ayers may have some dim claim to be a topic worth knowing about, but we shot through the sensible, non-obsessive proportion of interest on that topic about 45 posts ago on Q&O alone. And then there’s.. let’s see..

Obama’s alledged gay affair with Larry Sinclair, the alledged non-affair where that chick was alledgedly sent to the Carribean because Michelle didn’t like her, a fake whitey tape, a fake michelle interview with "African Press International", fake allegations of another alledged B.O.’s gay sex event (at the age of 10, and this one wins the prize for most disgusting, despicable whisper campaign of all).. much ink on how B.O. having followers call into radio shows to complain about Stan Kurtz = "a coming thugocracy", .. outraged stories about B.O.’s donations online by people using made up names that ignore John McCain’s fake named online donations.. the never-ending "Obama’s birth certificate is fake, SERIOUSLY" campaign.. oh, and the whole ACORN is stealing the election OMG! crusade.

Obama’s had more outrageous cr*p thrown at him before even being elected than GWB had in a lifetime, and it’s all coming from the conservative blogosphere. Dan Riehl, Jeff Goldstein, Ace, NRO, Commentary, Townhall, HumanEvents, WorldNetDaily, Fox News, Wake Up America, The Astute Bloggers, the StrataSphere,
on and on and on and on and on.

Pogue is right, it’s way to late to demonstrate a potential to avoid ODS. Turns out modern political movements all act basically the same way when placed on the internet and forced to lose elections. I, for one, am very surprised. I genuinely believe that Democrats were uniquely character deficient!
 
Written By: glasnost
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You mean "we" as in "the conservative blogosphere", yes, you must be fooling yourself. Obama’s board of directors time with W. Ayers may have some dim claim to be a topic worth knowing about, but we shot through the sensible, non-obsessive proportion of interest on that topic about 45 posts ago on Q&O alone. And then there’s.. let’s see..
One thing about reading different ’sides’ of the blogosphere is it shows how deeply held biases are. I’m convinced that most conservatives are amazed that Americans aren’t simply rejecting Obama for his "associations" and "radical liberalism." They are certain these are obvious, and that most Americans will reject them. And, wanting to avoid cognitive dissonance, they gravitate to polls that show the race tightening whenever such polls appear. I suspect it’s emotion. People get caught up in the emotion of a contest. Emotion clouds cognition and makes it easier for people to engage in wishful thinking. (And yes, the left does the same thing). But right now given all the political science models, the debates, current polling, and public opinion I’d put the odds at about 80-20 for Obama. However, it’s been an interesting election.

And it’s interesting how the right behaves much the behavior they ridicule on the left when they appear down. ACORN = Diebold, Ayres = Halliburton....and the extremes on each side can’t comprehend why the mass of the public doesn’t see it the way they do. It seems to them so obvious!
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Written By: Scott Erb
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Boris Erb:
One thing about reading different ’sides’ of the blogosphere is it shows how deeply held biases are.
So, Boris, do you think that in a presidential election that the biases of bloggers are more important than the biases of the candidates themselves? For instance, is it more important to you what bloggers say about Obama’s 20 years in a racist church than the fact that Obama was there?
I’m convinced that most conservatives are amazed that Americans aren’t simply rejecting Obama for his "associations" and "radical liberalism."
Americans haven’t heard all that much about Obama’s alliances and his radicalism.

For instance, Americans know that Obama attended a church with a pastor who is a ranting racist fool, and maybe they give Obama the benefit of the doubt. But Americans do not know that the church is based in racist "black theology" and that everyone attending the church is indoctrinated into that when they join.

So, Americans get half the story about Obama from the media.

Compare and contrast with the way any white candidate belonging to the white racist equivalent of Obama’s racist church would be treated. Such a candidate would be justly hooted off the stage of national politics.

And the "I just attended those Klan rallies, I didn’t burn any of the crosses" explanation that Obama has used would be laughed at.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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