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Anyone - what in the world does this mean?
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, November 04, 2008



What is it? What is it designed to defend us from? Why wouldn't that be the job of the police or, if necessary, the National Guard? Is this just a government jobs program he's talking about? Sounds like something Chavez did.
 
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Imagine if republicans did this. People would be crying "FASCISM!" and "BROWN-SHIRTS"! and "POLICE-STATE!"
 
Written By: Jimmy the Dhimmi
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Cue the Creepy Obama Youth Chorus: "OK, kids, take it from the top—’Tomorrow Belongs to Me.’"
 
Written By: Bilwick
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We can’t afford it, so I hope it won’t happen.

Initially I bet it would be sold as a domestic Peace Corps. I wouldn’t be surprised if you take a dime from the government you have to enroll.

I would suspect that forcing young people into community activist centers would be the desired goal. Expose someone young to destitute people for an extended period of time, then immerse them in community activist environment and doctrine. Indoctrination squad.

I suspect that if you take a government loan or benefit for college that would be the target group. Highschool would be better though.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Ahhhhh....I’m pretty sure I know ’what’ it is. My question is why? What threat does he ’see’ that is so compelling as to need a civilian security force— presumably with all the powers of our existing national police (aka FBI)— including the use of violence to compel the electorate’s compliance?

Obviously, it is something that could easily morph into something with rather dark overtones. Perhaps an even better question is why should the American people even ALLOW such a thing?
 
Written By: Unscripted Thoughts
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I don’t know what it is, but I’m signin up as soon as possible.
I expect nice uniforms, maybe something in black and silver. Little State Security color tabs, hmmmm, that won’t fit....SS for short then I think.

What do you think - fighter jets? Bombers? Armored vehicles? Artillery? I mean, it’s going to be as powerful and as strong and as well funded, (here I thought powerful and strong were the same thing, but I guess not....) as the military.

Not sure where it fits under the Constitution, but hey we need it for...what?

Well, for starters it’ll probably be required in the coal producing areas of the country as those gun toting bible clutching losers get unruly over losing their primary means of employment, and possibly in places where electricity rationing causes social unrest as SELFISH people refuse to do the patriotic thing and sacrifice for the good of our nation (which will be based primarily in Chicago, New York, Boston, Los Angeles and Washington DC).
 
Written By: looker
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Can we all stop with the Nazi references please?
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I’m sure we can find some analogies from Cuba or Russia that fit Obamas proposals ;)
 
Written By: shark
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It’s all bull. He out-Clintons Clinton. He will say anything on the stump with absolutely no intention of ever following through *if* there is the slightest resistance.

I hope.
 
Written By: Arcs
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I’m sure we can find some analogies from Cuba or Russia that fit Obamas proposals ;)
Okay, okay...what kind of snazzy uniforms did the NKVD have?

 
Written By: looker
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This was we can still use the State Security logo, but not be confused for NAZIs because of course it will be completely different.
 
Written By: looker
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What is it? What is it designed to defend us from?
Well, for one, we’ve got those right-wing hatchet men like that smear-merchant Stanley Kurtz spewing fear-mongering terrorist smears all over the place.

Next time somebody like that starts pushing "lies, distortions, and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois professor William Ayers," do we really want to have to depend on some ad hoc email and a bunch of irate phone calls to settle things down? Come on, people, let’s get ready!
 
Written By: Linda Morgan
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As I wrote at my http://www.americanconservativeparty.org blog on: 7/14/08

On July 2, Barack Obama made a speech on public service and reportedly it contained this line:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set... We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Robert Steely at his Townhall blog located two transcripts but they did not contain the above statement. One can search those transcripts using Peace Corps since the missing statement should come immediately after the “double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy” statement. Mr. Steely thought that maybe the missing statement was being exaggerated or truly out of context. Judge for yourself by watching a video on youTube which has it captured at the 16:42 mark.

Now granted he was talking about increasing the size of the Peace Corps, Foreign Service, AmerciCorps, and create new civilian organizations previously, so maybe it was really just a poor choice of words. If not, what does he mean? President Chavez of Venezuela has his civilian Territorial Guards Militia to suppress internal dissent and defend Chavez’s presidency. Will President Obama need a similar civilian national security force? And why are the transcripts missing that statement and why hasn’t Mr. Obama been asked about this or explained it on his own.

My wee bit of paranoia is tweaked when I hear a presidential candidate speak using such terminology. Now I’m old and while I did manage to miss President Adam’s Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 and President Wilson’s Sedition Act of 1918, I don’t like statements that appear to favor policies that impact fundamental rights. Nor do I want a civilian national security force suppressing dissent as is being done in Venezuela. Maybe I’m old and cranky, but I just don’t like anyone who could be in such a powerful position even alluding to the Peace Corps and AmerciCorps as a national security force much less even hint that he thinks along the lines of President Chavez. But hey, that’s just me.

 
Written By: amr
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Now there’s a shocker: The Clown Obama making sh!t up as he goes along.

And this appeared where? On CNN? MSDNC? Imagine if Palin said something this stupid.

This country deserves to have this nitwit for the next four years. We truly do.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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If you look at countries like Indonesia, Chile, and others, one thing left-leaning leaders often do is set up a "Fifth Force" or people’s militia. This is done to counter-act the power of the military. I don’t think Obama is doing this, I suspect he wants kids to experience poverty, ala sending kids to the countryside in China, etc. (another left-wing concept that also ties in with his childhood in a poor country but moving back to a rich country, perhaps he wishes we all knew about how everyone else is so poor, etc,.

"I would suspect that forcing young people into community activist centers would be the desired goal. Expose someone young to destitute people for an extended period of time, then immerse them in community activist environment and doctrine. Indoctrination squad."

Anyways, this is my guess what this will end up being, and we can only hope this is true. Because there is no better way to turn off a society to socialism than to require people to do boring ass government sh!t.
 
Written By: Harun
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"I hope."

There you go with the hope stuff. See, he’s got you already.


"what kind of snazzy uniforms did the NKVD have?"


I think they were an olive color, which is nice because it is an earth tone which reminds us of Mother Earth and olive branches (the symbol of peace).
 
Written By: timactual
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Of course the uniforms would be of all organic natural fibers, no synthetics.
 
Written By: timactual
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Of course the uniforms would be of all organic natural fibers, no synthetics.
And totally made here in Amerika, delivering the Obama’s promise to bring Amerikan jobs home!

 
Written By: looker
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Sturmabteilung.

It’s a longstanding socialist tradition.
 
Written By: The Gonzman
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Well, it is about time something was done to counter the omnipresent threat of all those right-wing militias whose daily outrages keep us all in fear.
 
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