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Naivete Shows in First Foreign Policy Faux Pas
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Well this ought to forge tighter relations between the incoming administration and Israel:
Ahmad Yousuf, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh's political advisor, said that during the recent US presidential race a secret meeting between senior Islamist group figures and advisors to President-elect Barack Obama was held in Gaza.

"We were in contact with a number of Obama's aides through the Internet, and later met with some of them in Gaza, but they advised us not to come out with any statements, as they may have a negative effect on his election campaign and be used by Republican candidate John McCain (to attack Obama)," Yousuf said in an interview with London-based Arabic-language newspaper Al-Hayat, published Tuesday

Yousuf said Hamas's contact with Obama's advisors was ongoing, adding that he was still on good terms with some of the aides he had befriended while residing in the US.
Of course Israel fears that such contact and possible talks, even with the best of intentions (such as attempting to coerce them to change their ways) will do nothing more than legitimize them.

Interesting. Now that it is no longer a threat to the Obama election bid, Hamas has no hesitation whatsoever about trotting out these "secret" contacts as an "in your face" to Israel. I'm sure that's not what Obama, et. al., hoped for, but it does point to a level of naivete as concerns the situation there as well as believing Hamas would keep thecontacts a secret. I'm also pretty sure this sort of behind the back dealing with an group that Israel deems a terrorist organization is not going to be particularly well received by the Israelis.
 
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During Obama’s campaign, he pledged that his administration would only hold talks with Hamas if it renounced terrorism, recognized Israel’s right to exist, and abided by past agreements.
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Written By: Is
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Countdown to Cap or Erb coming to rationalize it in 3...2...1...

(PS- Obama lied, Israelis are gonna die!)
 
Written By: shark
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Check out the key envoy that Obama is sending to Syria and Egypt.

some key items:

item 1
Robert Malley was raised in France. His lineage is noteworthy. His father, Simon Malley (1923-2006), was a key figure in the Egyptian Communist Party. A passionate hater of Israel, the elder Malley was a close friend and confidante of the late PLO terrorist Yasser Arafat; an inveterate critic of “Western imperialism”; a supporter of various revolutionary “liberation movements,” particularly the Palestinian cause; a beneficiary of Soviet funding; and a supporter of the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. According to American Thinker news editor Ed Lasky, Simon Malley “participated in the wave of anti-imperialist and nationalist ideology that was sweeping the Third World [and] … wrote thousands of words in support of struggle against Western nations.”
item 2
Middle East and North Africa Program Director for the International Crisis Group
Formerly served as President Bill Clinton’s Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli Affairs
Son of Simon Malley, a key figure in the Egyptian Communist Party
Blamed Israel for the failed Camp David peace negotiations with Yasser Arafat in 2000
Has co-written a number of op-ed pieces with Hussein Agha, a former adviser to Arafat
Consistently condemns Israel, exonerates Palestinians, urges U.S. disengagement from Israel, and recommends that America reach out to negotiate with its traditional Arab enemies
Became foreign policy advisor to presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2007
Malley’s identification of Israel as the cause of the Camp David failure has been widely embraced by Palestinian and Arab activists around the world, by Holocaust deniers like Norman Finkelstein, and by anti-Israel publications such as Counterpunch. According to American Thinker news editor Ed Lasky, Malley "was also believed to be the chief source for an article [dated July 26, 2001] by Deborah Sontag that whitewashed Arafat’s role in the collapse of the peace process, an article that has been widely criticized as riddled with errors and bias."

Malley’s account of the Camp David negotiations is entirely inconsistent with the recollections of the key figures who participated in those talks, most notably then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, U.S. President Bill Clinton, and U.S. Ambassador Dennis Ross (Clinton’s Middle East envoy).

According to Ross, the peace efforts failed for one reason only: because Arafat wanted them to fail. "[F]undamentally," said Ross, "I do not believe he [Arafat] can end the conflict. We had one critical clause in this agreement, and that clause was, this is the end of the conflict. Arafat’s whole life has been governed by struggle and a cause ... [F]or him to end the conflict is to end himself…. Barak was able to reposition Israel internationally. Israel was seen as having demonstrated unmistakably it wanted peace, and the reason it [peace] wasn’t … achievable was because Arafat wouldn’t accept."

Over the years, Malley has penned numerous op-eds condemning Israel, exonerating Palestinians, urging the U.S. to disengage from Israel to some degree, and recommending that America reach out to negotiate with its traditional Arab enemies such as Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Muqtada al-Sadr.
So Obama’s policy will be to disengage with Israel.

What could go wrong?


 
Written By: capt joe
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In fairness, bear in mind that this is Hamas talking and it’s an open question whether they or Obama and his crew is the bigger bunch of liars.
 
Written By: Achillea
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So Obama’s policy will be to disengage with Israel. What could go wrong?
That would be a major mistake for the Obama administration. If the US "disengages" then Israel may decide it is better to not have any Palis around at all. I shudder to think what would happen when the eliminationist right takes over Israel’s government in an election cycle or two (they will make Meir Kahane and Kach look like a bunch of peace-at-any-price wusses).
 
Written By: CR
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It’s early, but I don’t think too early to call it.

Obama: Worst. President. Ever.

But in fairness to process, I won’t put the "Impeach" sign up on my front lawn until January 20.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Obama is really, really smart and learns really, really quickly, and darn it, I just trust the guy.

So lighten up already.
 
Written By: huxley
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Martin,

I think you are forgetting the total suckitude of Buchanan, whose Secretary of War (Jefferson Davis) was transferring entire Federal arsenals to the South in preparation for the soon-to-come Civil War, while Buchanan basically said that secession was illegal, but hey, what are ya gonna do? Actually, that gives him too much credit; he was not merely inactive in preventing the Civil War, but active in instigating it, through his actions in Kansas, his complicity in Dred Scott, and so forth.

So Obama may end up in the bottom tier (I hope not, frankly), but if he does, it would take a great deal to unseat Buchanan at the bottom.

 
Written By: Jeff Medcalf
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What are they saying out there in the neighborhoods of Planet Obama today?

"If only Barack knew."
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Boy, Jeff, are you really going to do a beat down like that on Buchanan by comparing him unfavorably to Obama?

That’s a little over the line, if you ask me!

Clearly, all the data isn’t in yet on the Obama presidency, but what is in suggests much more than a mere fiasco like the Civil War.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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That would be a major mistake for the Obama administration.
I was being ironic. But hey, lets see what happens.
 
Written By: capt joe
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The truth about the Obama presidency, even at, what is it now, T-minus-71 days and counting, is that other than superfluid postmodern Marxism, its functioning principles will not become apparent until the presidential steroids kick in after the inauguration.

"Just get the power, Barack."

But I suspect that what the Obama presidency will be for this country will be something like what a lot of parents experience when they send that bright beautiful young eager-to-learn child off to the public school system and several years latter get back a desolate idiot with an early case of genital herpes and infected piercings.

But I don’t mean to suggest that it will simply stop at being another Clinton presidency.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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And for the stupid Jews who voted (D) instead of for Israel’s survival, let it be on their heads when The Clown™ sells out the Jewish state for good relations with Iran, or Syria, and leads to another Holocaust.

The Jews always seem to work on cutting their own throats. The American Jews may have just learned what the European Jews learned: that some people are just downright dangerous. And The Clown™ is one of them.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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Remember when Reagan’s aides supposedly met with the Iranians in Paris?

That was a big stink. But this is not?

I guess not hostages were involved.

Oh, and by the way, it was later proven that the Paris meeting did not take place.
 
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