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Some things never change
Posted by: McQ on Sunday, November 16, 2008

A New York Times headline today:

"Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage"

Total Mormon population in California:

750,000 (1.9%)

Total Black population in California (2007)

2,242,188 (6.7%)

Total Latino population in California:

13 million (35.9%)

Prop 8 exit polling info:

Blacks voted 70/30 "Yes"

Latinos voted 53/47 "Yes"

Between them, blacks and latinos made up 28% of those who voted on Prop 8 in California, but it was the Mormons who tipped the scales?

Now that's what I call reporting. [/sarcasm]

Is there any wonder why they're in trouble?
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Previous Comments to this Post 

Poisoning the well in case Romney had any future aspirations?

He’s a Morman you know.

Written By: shark
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Uhh, don’t you think that perhaps Mormon money and campaigning had a lot to do with the results? I didn’t see a single statement in the story suggesting that it was Mormon *votes* that put it over the edge.
Written By: Brad Warbiany
Uhh, don’t you think that perhaps Mormon money and campaigning had a lot to do with the results? I didn’t see a single statement in the story suggesting that it was Mormon *votes* that put it over the edge.
So your argument is that blacks and latinos - who turned out to vote for Obama but have always been very conservative on this issue - were swayed by Mormon money and without it most likely would have gone against past traditional voting records and voted "no"?

Do you think it was Mormon money which swayed the vote in other states which passed amendments and propositions on the same day as Prop 8 declaring marriage to be only between a man and a woman?
Written By: McQ
ahahah the gays dont have the balls to come to east la or south central to protest. they would get robbed and then shot before they could get 20 meters outside a church.
Written By: slntax
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There are a lot of lessons here.

Perhaps the most basic one is from the Declaration of Independence, something about governments "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Like it or not, the lectorate has spoken. Not a few enlightened judges, not some manipulable legislature, but the California electorate.

Tantrums won’t change this. In your face tactics won’t change this. The gays can persuade a reasonable people to back their cause, or remove marriage from the sphere of politics, or sulk.

If I were a Californian, I’d have voted yes, on religious grounds. I’d support taking marriage outside the political arena entirely. I’d be OK with domestic partnerships. I’ll be d4mned if I’ll be intimidated into anything.

The other lesson is that not fighting back makes you the target of the bullies. Were I one of the Mormons, I’d press charges and sue every one of these "protesters" who disrupts religious services or mails white powder. If this were the work of an organization, I’d be pressing the DA to go after them under the RICO laws.
Written By: MarkD
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Hmmm, perhaps the NYT et. al. would be blaming Catholicism if the skin tones of the Catholics who voted "yes" were three shades whiter?
Written By: Titus Quinn
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Oh, definitely they’re attacking the Mormons because we don’t fight back (and I don’t think that’s an argument for fighting back, since it does the world the favor of exposing the gay activists’ cowardice). If they’d sent an anthrax scare to an AME church instead of to the LDS temple, it’d be considered a hate crime.

I love watching identity politics eat its own.
Written By: Wacky Hermit
One other fact they like to forget. The "No on 8" campaign spent more money then the "Yes on 8" campaign did. So, "Mormon" money caused them to lose (do they even track how much "Mormons" gave compared to other groups?), even though they spent more money. Love it.

(link containing some information on the financing of the campaigns.)

(Disclaimer: I am LDS (Mormon), so not an entirely disinterested party in this.)
Written By: Clark Taylor
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For some reason this emphasis on the miniscule number of Mormons reminded me of an old cigarette commercial’

"The most important quarter inch in smoking today".

Of course they say this about about every election. It seems the most important and critical groups, the ones without whom no election can be won, are the smallest, usually 2% or so. Think of all the resources wasted on the other 98% of the voters. I am always amused.

Written By: timactual
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Maybe that is why some motorcycle clubs use the ’one percenter’ slogan. It signifies their importance, and I wonder why more effort is not made to influence their votes. Perhaps a $25 bil. bailout of Harley-Davidson will sway this critical demographic and win the next election.
Written By: timactual
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It is like Larry O’Donnell once admitted to Hugh Hewitt. Attacking Mormons is likely to earn you a LDS-baked cake, going after the real culprits will likely get your head removed.

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