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Geez - Even the Commies Get It
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, December 10, 2008

While the President-elect trots out his New New Deal, which smacks more of Soviet style planning than free market recovery, Communist China is taking an alternate course:
CHINA may soon cut business tax as part of its efforts to prop up the slowing economy amid the global financial crisis, state media reported on Tuesday.

The government is 'very likely' to soon cut the business tax for enterprises by one percentage point, the China Daily said, citing an unnamed source close to policymakers.

China's current business tax varies from three to 20 per cent, boosting government revenue by 600 billion yuan (S$131 billion) last year, according to the paper.

The news follows other state press reports last week that Beijing was planning to cut business tax for commercial banks - possibly to three percent from the current five percent, to help improve their capital adequacy.

Beijing has launched a number of tax measures aimed at maintaining growth as the global meltdown's impact on the Chinese economy becomes increasingly pronounced.

It has increased export tax rebates on various items from textile to steel products and has announced plans to lower export tariffs on agricultural goods by up to 30 per cent.
You just have to shake your head when you see things like this? What part of this doesn't an American administration get? Why are we addressing "public works" when the most immediate way to impact the private sector economy - you know the one which creates growth, jobs and investment? - is to cut business taxes?

As for the great public works that Obama plans, even his new budget chief knows it isn't going to do what Obama thinks it will do. When Peter Orszag ran the Congressional Budget Office, he had this to say about Obama-like programs:
"Practically speaking, however, public works involve long start-up lags. Large-scale construction projects of any type require years of planning and preparation. Even those that are "on the shelf" generally cannot be undertaken quickly enough to provide timely stimulus to the economy. For major infrastructure projects supported by the federal government, such as highway construction and activities of the Army Corps of Engineers, initial outlays usually total less than 25 percent of the funding provided in a given year. For large projects, the initial rate of spending can be significantly lower than 25 percent.

Some of the candidates for public works, such as grant-funded initiatives to develop alternative energy sources, are totally impractical for countercyclical policy, regardless of whatever other merits they may have. In general, many if not most of these projects could end up making the economic situation worse because they would stimulate the economy at the time that expansion was already well under way."
The CBO says the principles which should drive fiscal stimulus plans are clear:
The most effective fiscal stimulus policies share two common features:

¦ They focus on the time period when stimulus is most likely to be needed, and

¦ They are designed to increase economic activity as much as possible for a given budgetary cost.
The most effective way to do that?
The most effective types of fiscal stimulus (delivered either through tax cuts or increased spending on transfer payments) are those that direct money to people who are most likely to quickly spend the bulk of any additional funds provided to them.
And tax cuts for business will do what?
Tax cuts for businesses may also take two forms. They may be general, such as reducing the corporate tax rate, or they may apply only to new investment, such as the investment tax credit. That distinction materially influences the effectiveness of the proposed approaches. Although a general business tax cut may leave a corporation with higher cash flow, which can affect investment decisions in some cases, its stimulative effect comes principally from how much it increases the attractiveness of new investment.
Etc., etc.

Timing is everything in economic stimulus and programs that take 2, 3, 4 or 5 years to get rolling don't do what is necessary when it is necessary.

Funny isn't it - looking at Communist China's move to stimulate its economy and comparing it to this coming attempt by the incoming administration and wondering if you haven't awakened in some parallel universe where "communist" actually means "capitalist."

Given the apparent US course, Paul Krugman may be right for once when he says:
'We could easily be talking about a world economy that is depressed into 2011 and even beyond,' the Princeton University professor and New York Times columnist told reporters in Stockholm, where he will receive his Nobel prize this week.
Yes we could.
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Previous Comments to this Post 

Funny isn’t it - looking to Communist China’s move to stimulate its economy and looking at this coming attempt by the incoming administration in contrast and wondering if you haven’t awakened in a parallel universe of some sort where Communist really means capitalist.
This is the stuff that makes me want to bang my head against the wall to see if I am dreaming. The Communists know more about Capitalism, and use it more, than we do! Your post gives tried and true examples of how to jump-start the economy. What the Bush Administration is doing with these bailouts, and the Obama Administration will do, even more, is exactly wrong.
Written By: jjmurphy
The newer new deal is not about fixing the economy. It is to increase the number of folks attached directly to the government teat. If you depend on your livelihood from the government, of course you will vote to keep that government/party in power.

What "fixed" America after the last transition into socialism was WWII. Lets hope that something as drastic isn’t needed this time around.

Written By: GeekHeretic
"Practically speaking, however, public works involve long start-up lags......"

Couldn’t have said it better myself.
But I tried.
Written By: timactual
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Tax policy for Democrats is less about maximizing tax revenue and more about increasing "fairness."
Written By: Keith_Indy
Meanwhile back at the ranch .. err .. Congress ..
"The CEOs of Fannie and Freddie made reckless bets that led to the downfall of their companies," Waxman said. "But it is a myth to say they were the originators of the subprime crisis. Fundamentally, they were following the market, not leading it."
"Fannie Mae did not cause the current crisis," said Raines. "If anything, Fannie Mae played catch-up to the banks and investment banks who drove the securitization of the most toxic subprime mortgages."

Raines said that while Fannie and Freddie hold some responsibility for not appropriately managing their own credit risk, regulators must share in the blame. He argued that government officials — he named the Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, Department of Housing and Urban Development, among others — were asleep at the switch. The regulators, he said, failed to use their authority to put a stop to extremely dangerous lending practices.

"While regulations did not force financial institutions to make bad loans, the absence of consumer protection regulation allowed many bad loans to be made to the detriment of consumers," he said.
Summary: Stop Me Before I Loan Again
Written By: Neo
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"We could easily be talking about a world economy that is depressed into 2011 and even beyond"

Mr. Krugman, why not envision a world economy in which the economically free countries leap on ahead while those that socialize problems of the private sector limp along anemically? Europe has been a case study in the latter for decades and America is about to join them. There has been much hand-wringing here and elsewhere of the prospect of America being eclipsed by other countries in the not so distant future. Well, here it comes!
Written By: CR
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What part of this doesn’t an American administration get?

Well, since our schools no longer teach history or economics, of course we’re having to relearn lessons that we learned long ago.

Welcome to the Funniest End of Civilization Ever. It sucks, but it’s darn funny.

I mean, commies acting all capitalistical and supposed capitalists acting all commie is really the logical progression on the way to the barbarians coming over the walls.
Written By: Veeshir
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"While regulations did not force financial institutions to make bad loans, the absence of consumer protection regulation allowed many bad loans to be made to the detriment of consumers," he said.

Translation; ’I am too dumb to know a bad loan when I see one, and too cowardly to say no even if I do, but I am still worth millions of dollars a year because...... well, just because.’
Written By: timactual
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As Arthur Laffer recently noted, the 26 years of Reagan’s supply-side prosperity is now ended. It’s worthwhile to remember that Reagan heavily stimulated a deep recession economy by the 1981 Economic Recovery Act giving businesses deep tax breaks for making new investments, and by cutting personal income taxes.

Mr. Obama intends to increase taxes to 41% as we wade into a recession, which is much like pouring gasoline on to a fire. That proposed 41%, by the way, is exactly one percentage point beyond Laffer’s Curve optimimum of 40%, the point where government revenues FALL from increased taxes.

We get the government we do the Chinese.
Written By: a Duoist

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