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New Lows for the Left
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, December 16, 2008

You can tell its a relatively slow news week. Crooks and Liars is reduced to resurrecting the "Nazis in the Army" story of a couple of years ago.

Now, that's pathetic enough (C&L has to admit that when the FBI investigated the claim, they found that there were all of 200 identifiable "neo-nazis" in the military at the time) but apparently there's an even more urgent reason to be concerned:
This has the deadly potential to become a significant component of the predictable surge in far-right activity likely to manifest itself in the United States in the coming months and years, especially as Democrats and liberals expand their hold on power. We run the risk of re-creating the conditions that arose in Germany and Italy after World War I: the presence of scores of angry, disaffected, and psychologically damaged war veterans, fed a steady diet of "Dolchstosslegende," poised to organize into a political force aimed at "rebirthing" the nation and its heritage.
Yes, it is "danger time" in the good old USA!

And how does this person know this is true? Well, it appears it's all on the "internet":
Earlier this year, the founder of White Military Men identified himself in his New Saxon account as "Lance Corporal Burton" of the 2nd Battalion Fox Company Pit 2097, from Florida, according to a master's thesis by graduate student Matthew Kennard. Under his "About Me" section, Burton writes: "Love to shoot my M16A2 service rifle effectively at the Hachies (Iraqis)," and, "Love to watch things blow up (Hachies House)."
Of course everyone knows, if its on the internet, it has to be true. Like Jesse MacBeth for instance.

Probably the most disgusting part of this post was to be found in this paragraph:
This problem doesn’t involve only the Nazis, gang-bangers, and other violent personalities worming their way into the military. It also affects the many more formerly normal, non-racist recruits who have been dragged into multiple tours of duty in Iraq, regardless of the psychological dangers of such treatment. This includes many people whose evaluations have recommended they not be returned for duty but have been sent back regardless. Thus the Timothy McVeigh Finishing School continues to operate.
The "Timothy McVeigh Finishing School?" Is that what the military is?

What an incredibly scummy thing this yahoo does - someone who couldn't carry a combat infantryman's dirty boots. All of the neo-nazi nonsense to cheap shot the military in general with the "crazy veteran" meme.

Bring up 200 neo-nazis, lump them in with "gang-bangers" and "other violent personalities" and then claim, out of thin air, that it "affects" other "non-racist" recruits who've suffered the "psychological dangers" of multiple tours. In other words, they're all like that. It's not even original, for heaven sake, but a disgusting rerun of the crazy Vietnam vet meme previously introduced by the left and updated for the 21st century.

Watch for more of this from the left as it decides it is no longer politically necessary to honor those who serve in the military.
 
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Well, Niewert was always a class act. Read his other dreck to see just how much
 
Written By: capt joe
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People who express great concern about the rise of a new fascism, while agitating for a bigger and more powerful State, are self-contradictory, and also examples of the psychological concept of "projection." You can’t have National Socialism without socialism.
 
Written By: Bilwick
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McQ, here you are doing your over-the-top defense of those baby-killing military types, when I’ve proven with the holy principles of post-modernism that the military turns at least a third of it’s members into raving lunatics. Can’t you admit just for one minute how depraved they all are?

Crooks and Liars has it exactly right, but I was there first when I talked about how our invasion of Iraq was just like the Nazis. It all fits together, don’t you see? If you could just access your true emotions, and feel as genuinely and completely as we wise leftists do, you would see that the military is vicious and evil and needs to be downsized to a few platoons to guard embassies. I’m not even sure what they would be guarding against, since it’s well known that if we threw our military away, the primary cause of all war would be eliminated and peace would reign throughout the world.

Why, if we did that, I’m sure the Palestinians and the Israelis would come to terms in a week. And it wouldn’t be because the Israelis were overwhelmed and destroyed, so stop saying that! And even if they were, they deserve to suffer the way the poor Palestinians have suffered for fifty years. Jimmy Carter, the wisest leader we’ve ever had and a great man, and I wish I could just sit at his feet for a while and gaze at his majesty, has shown us the true face of the moderate, victimized Palestinians, and the only reason the nasty Israelis treat them that way is because our military supports Israel. Think of it! Our lunatic, neo-Nazi troops are the ultimate cause of the Palestinian suffering, and you, McQ, refuse to even consider doing anything about it. How heartless can you be?

With my godlike powers of political science, I can intuitively assess that our military is destructive, deranged, and just awful. No, I don’t have any direct experience with anything remotely military, why do you ask? But I’ve seen the interviews with the winter soldier guys, and that told me all I needed to know about the depravity of the military. Well, that, plus all those absolutely true stories regaled by that stainless hero John Kerry. He’s a textbook example of what happens when a good and honest person goes through military experience. And when he told the truth about it, fifty of those baby-killing monsters lied about him to smear him and prevent him from taking the place of that odious Bush. It’s all proven beyond a doubt; why, it’s on Wikipedia, which is the greatest, most authoritative resource on the Internet because we wise leftists can directly put our own narrative in the articles there without the tiresome process of achieving consensus on the truth. Heck, all we pragmatic post-modernists know that there are multiple truths anyway, and it’s important that the narrative be established around the one that soothes everyone’s ragged emotions.

So we’re now in the process of re-vitalizing the narrative that the military is composed of deranged far right wingers. And there’s nothing you can do about it, McQ. The talking points have already been issued. You’ll start seeing the effects in the New York Times and CNN any day now. I mean, effects beyond their usual disdain for the military, of course.
 
Written By: Ott Scerb
URL: http://CluelessAboutTheMilitaryButStillSureTheyreBabyKillingNazis.dolt/smug/tool
"We run the risk of re-creating the conditions that arose in Germany and Italy after World War I..."
I just broke out laughing at that. The price of tinfoil must have fallen through the floor.

 
Written By: Grimshaw
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Amazingly, I trust those "crazy veterans" infinitely more than I trust people like the author McQ lambastes...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Grim, I was actually almost with him when he wrote this
We run the risk of re-creating the conditions that arose in Germany and Italy after World War I:

but then he goes off the rails and doesn’t continue on with by raising a man whose appeal is a cult of personality to lead the country

 
Written By: Veeshir
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and when bruce is scaping the bottom of the barrel like this pedro knows that there’s been yet another spectacular failure of the unfettered, unregulated market out there he’s desperately trying to ignore. why hello bernie!
 
Written By: pedro the illegal alien
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"the unfettered, unregulated market"

Where does this magical place exist? And what does it have to do with the topic of the post?
 
Written By: David C.
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Here’s my problem with "Lance Corporal Burton".

First it’s "Hajis", not "Hachies". I don’t know what a "Hachie" is, but it isn’t what "Lance Corporal Burton" says it is.

Second, if he’s a Lance Corporal, that means he must be a Marine. I’m not sure what kind of designation "2nd Battalion Fox Company Pit 2097" is in the USMC. I do know that "Pit", should probably be "Plt" or platoon.

I also know that your unit designation doesn’t go from the highest to the lowest unit, but the reverse. For instance, you’d say your unit was 1st Platoon, Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 1st Marines.

I don’t even know how you’d get to be designated Platoon 2097. There are generally three platoons plus a HQ element per company, so you’d generally be in 1st, 2nd or 3rd Platoon.

The oly place I can think of where you’d be in Plt 2097 would be basic training, where platoons are numbered sequentially.

But, even if it wasn’t, "2097 Platoon, Fox Company, 2nd Battalion" isn’t a unit designation. It’s almost one, but without knowing either the regiment or the Division, it doesn’t designate any unit at all.

So, I have some doubts about the service record of "Lance Corporal Burton".
 
Written By: Dale Franks
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and when bruce is scaping the bottom of the barrel like this pedro knows that there’s been yet another spectacular failure of the unfettered, unregulated market out there he’s desperately trying to ignore. why hello bernie!
For someone with a microsoft email address I would figure you for a supporter of market economies given where your salary comes from
 
Written By: capt joe
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the predictable surge in far-right activity
Thus the Stab in the Back myth begins for the Obama regime, with the "right-wingers" as the handy scapegoats.
We run the risk of re-creating the conditions that arose in Germany and Italy after World War I
But I thought that Crooks and Liars supported Liberal Fascism?
 
Written By: T
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No one in Iraq says Hadji anymore. They call them Muj (as in Mujaheddin.)

I’m calling fraud on the "evidence".
 
Written By: Phelps
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Thinking aloud;
What do you suppose the chances are that this got dredged up again not because they didn’t have anything else to go with, but because given the election, they think they have a better chance of slipping it by ?
 
Written By: Bithead
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So, I have some doubts about the service record of "Lance Corporal Burton"
You know, I thought that "unit" sounded funny, but I couldn’t place it. Now I know, it’s backwards...
They call them Muj (as in Mujaheddin.)
As in "f*ck you, you Muj motherf*ckers" from the video that is YEARS old of a close-in airstrike that some soldiers videotaped.

I’ll have to dig up a link...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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As Obama "right-sizes" the US defense establishment, look for politically motivated purges of the officer and senior non-com ranks. The US military may be the only government institution fighting for our freedoms, against enemies both foreign and domestic.
 
Written By: Joseph Somsel
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The biggest problem that Iraq vets will face is coming back to this Ladies Club that America has turned into and learning the various methods of restraining one’s mouth in the the company of the whining old women of both sexes and all ages who now predominate in this society.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Lance Corporal Burton
Or maybe just made up as in Lance Burton, magician
 
Written By: shark
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No one in Iraq says Hadji anymore. They call them Muj (as in Mujaheddin.)
Maybe, maybe not. It’s possible that the military has put out official word that the use of "hadji" as a pejorative is a no no, especially with the press. That said I’ve met at least one Iraqi War vet who referred to his 2 tours in Iraq as "acquiring my bachelors and masters in hadjiology." He has since gone back for his doctorate.
Amazingly, I trust those "crazy veterans" infinitely more than I trust people like the author McQ lambastes...
Most people do. In terms of popular support and approval, the military currently blows away almost every other American institution. I’m guessing that with the new congress and president coming to DC in January, the partisans will not allow that sort of approval disparity to stand.
 
Written By: Jeff the Baptist
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"Platoon 2097" could indeed exist - in boot camp.

Sounds like some idiot washout who somehow still thinks he’s a hardass.
 
Written By: Dave
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Maybe, maybe not. It’s possible that the military has put out official word that the use of "hadji" as a pejorative is a no no, especially with the press.
In a previous "unpopular" war, there was a politically driven higher headquarter directive stating that it would be a court martial offense for American servicemen to refer to the male indiginous population members as "Gomers".

The response to the directive was predictable. Until the directive was later rescinded, male indiginous population members were referred to as "Remogs" - or "Gomer" spelled backward!
 
Written By: SShiell
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There are very few things on the internet that actually make me angry. Oh, there’s lots that makes me want to argue... the old, "there’s someone *wrong* on the internet" thing. That’s generally fun.

This makes me upset. Physically so. It doesn’t make me want to argue or reason because there is no way to reason with the unreasonable. It’s in the realm of needing first to determine the color of the sky.

This is prejudice so vile and so ingrained there is nothing to do.

But if anyone would be so kind... please tell me, again, that these people are fringe loonies and no one listens to them, that normal liberals would be appalled to read a comment about Palin’s seed now in the evil military for his "training". I half hoped someone would speak up, but no one in the comments did.

 
Written By: Synova
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Speaking as an academic...I think I’d like to take a look at the footnotes of Mr. Kennards’ masters "thesis".

I think we have a new Ward Churchill in the making.
 
Written By: Rich Horton
URL: http://www.iconicmidwest.blogspot.com
But if anyone would be so kind... please tell me, again, that these people are fringe loonies and no one listens to them
So... you’re asking us to lie to you?
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Finding rational clear-thinking people who are also willing to die on the whims of government (which is evil remember?) is rare and expensive - so we take whatever we can get.
 
Written By: TomD
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this is NOT a "new low for the Left."

The new low came this week when they and their sick & demented ilk cheered some creepo for throwing his shoes at President Bush. And the MSM went along, showing and re-showing the clip almost with glee.

I wonder how they would react if, say, someone threw a shoe at The Clown™, and then watched him duck. I for one cannot stomach Obama, but no one wants to see this happen to the President of the United States (except for maybe Jimmy Carter, that anti-Semite).

If someone has the gall to do it President Clown™, I wonder how the media will show it. Over and over? Will they portray the thrower as some nice guy, or as a wild-eyed lunatic (probably a right-winger who listens to Rush Limbaugh!).

The gall of the Left knows no bounds. Their new lows this week will be superceded by even lower lows - just give them time.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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I believe our veterans of the Iraq War are going to provide some magnificent leadership for this country when they return. This will be obvious within ten years.
 
Written By: huxley
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"Lance Corporal Burton" is most likely a joke. Lance Burton is a famous magician in Vegas.
 
Written By: the wolf
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They told us Fascism was coming all during the Bush years.

But now that the GOP has lost complete power, IT’S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

I just hope their misplaced fears are similar to ours...as in National Healthcare won’t happen either.


 
Written By: Harun
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Where does this magical place exist? And what does it have to do with the topic of the post?
david c, where you been the last 8 yrs brother? printed laws are nice, but only if someone actually enforces them.

getting to the topic of the post, bruce is right, it is ludicrous. but as always, he uses a very broad brush ("the left"), as if large numbers of people are up in arms about this. i’d say there those 200 (!) neo-nazis out number anyone from "the left" howling about this non-issue.

and it is a non-issue. maddow is the issue du jour, and it’s a prime example of how flawed bruce’s entire underlying philosophy really is. hence he tries to deflect attention from it.
 
Written By: pedro the illegal alien
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and it’s a prime example of how flawed bruce’s entire underlying philosophy really is
Projection, Petey, projection
 
Written By: capt joe
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Maddow? Do you mean Madoff the thief, or Maddow the Fox-newsbabe-wannabe?
 
Written By: MarkD
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Maddow? Do you mean Madoff the thief, or Maddow the Fox-newsbabe-wannabe?


You’re suggesting that Rachel Maddow, Rhodes scholar and D.Phil from Oxford in political science and self professed butch dyke, actually wants to be a "Fox-newsbabe"?

Okay, whatever.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Watch for more of this from the left as it decides it is no longer politically necessary to honor those who serve in the military.


I think this is as much of an over reach as the story being responded to. The day the ubiquitous "left" decides that it’s no longer necessary to respect military service is the day they decided it’s no longer necessary to have political power. Believe it or don’t, a person can have enormous respect for the military, serve in the military, and be in favor of policies antithetical to the policies of the last 8 years.

The difference is that when you state your disapproval of how the military is being used, it’s not likely that anyone is going to state that your disapproval amounts to disrepecting those who serve, as was done to people who did not approve of how military force was projected in the recent past.
You’re suggesting that Rachel Maddow, Rhodes scholar and D.Phil from Oxford in political science and self professed butch dyke, actually wants to be a "Fox-newsbabe"?
Fox Newsbabes are wanna-be Rachel Maddow’s.

I think Rachel Maddow is kind of attractive, but I can’t past the fact that every time I see her, I can’t help but be reminded of Balky from Perfect Strangers.

Well, of course not, don’t be ridi-cool-us.

Whatever happened to Laurie Dhue? She should have her own show on cable, you know, where topless newscasts are allowed. (I’m not saying she’s stupid, but I am saying she is hot)

 
Written By: CaptinSarcastic
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Guys, none of this is new for the Left. Rudyard Kipling figured it out 80 years ago:
Memories
1930

"The eradication of memories of the Great War. -SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT ORGAN

The Socialist Government speaks:

THOUGH all the Dead were all forgot
And razed were every tomb,
The Worm-the Worm that dieth not
Compels Us to our doom.
Though all which once was England stands
Subservient to Our will,
The Dead of whom we washed Our hands,
They have observance still.

We laid no finger to Their load.
We multiplied Their woes.
We used Their dearly-opened road
To traffic with Their foes:
And yet to Them men turn their eyes,
To Them are vows renewed
Of Faith, Obedience, Sacrifice,
Honour and Fortitude!

Which things must perish. But Our hour
Comes not by staves or swords
So much as, subtly, through the power
Of small corroding words.
No need to make the plot more plain
By any open thrust;
But-see Their memory is slain
Long ere Their bones are dust!

Wisely, but yearly, filch some wreath-
Lay some proud rite aside-
And daily tarnish with Our breath
The ends for which They died.
Distract, deride, decry, confuse-
(Or-if it serves Us-pray!)
So presently We break the use
And meaning of Their day!


 
Written By: SDN
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