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You need experience for this stuff?
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, January 06, 2009

Hey, why not Leon "We have intelligence agencies?" Panetta for Director of the CIA? After all we have Barack "Who says you need experience?" Obama making the selection and Caroline "Hey, I'm a Kennedy, what more do you need?" Schlossberg under serious consideration for a Senate seat.

Why not Leon "What does a spy look like?" Panetta for CIA?

Because, you know:
On the merits, this idea that the CIA Director needs to be a career intelligence professional seems to have been pulled out of thin air.
Oh, for sure ... I mean, we wouldn't want amateur hour in Washington, would we?
 
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this idea that the CIA Director needs to be a career intelligence professional seems to have been pulled out of thin air.
I’m going to knock on the door of my company’s Chairman of the Board and try that line. I’m a shoo-in for CEO or at least a Sr. EVP position, I tell ya!
 
Written By: CR
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Yet given the dismal performance of our CIA over the past few decades.....I’m not so sure Panetta won’t be an upgrade
 
Written By: shark
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Whoa shark - hopeychangitude requires that everything be new and better - you know like instead of hiring a bunch of no experience politicians to run your intelligence agencies, you actually hire a pro so perhaps you can actually have them produce accurate and actionable intelligence.

Instead we get a no-experience political hack and Clinton retread in the position. Well, hey, Hillary’s happy anyway.
 
Written By: McQ
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I’m going to knock on the door of my company’s Chairman of the Board and try that line. I’m a shoo-in for CEO or at least a Sr. EVP position, I tell ya!
Given the performance of many financial companies, that must have been what happened.
 
Written By: capt joe
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I have read numerous spy novels, and I watch movies with spies in them. I believe this qualifies me for the Director of the CIA position. I am somewhat miffed that PEBO did not pick me for the job. As I just mentioned I am highly qualified for this, or virtually any other government position there is.
 
Written By: jjmurphy
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What’s the big deal. Leon gradgiated the 5th grade and can probably cypher.

That’s all it takes to be a double naught spy.
 
Written By: Neo
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This could be rewritten:
On the merits, this idea that the FEMA Director needs to be a career disaster preparedness professional seems to have been pulled out of thin air.
Yet Brown at FEMA due to management skills seemed to irk good ol’ Matt.

What gives?
 
Written By: Uncle Pinky
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Well, why not? TAO is qualified to be president because he ran for the office, is a genius, a Lightworker, and is very curious about things. HRC is qualified to be SecState because she dodged sniper fire in Bosnia. I’m sure that Panetta has heard of the CIA and maybe watched a Bond movie or two*, so he’s just as qualified as they are. Anyway, they’ve got Joe Biden, who will happily tell you all about how qualified he is for ANYTHING, so what’s to worry?

And have you noticed how the MSM has run interference for Panetta? He’s not "unqualified". Rather, he has "no operational experience". A few examples:
Panetta has relatively little experience in national security matters, although he did participate in daily intelligence briefings with President Bill Clinton when he served as Clinton’s chief of staff between 1994 and 1997. —- Andy Sullivan, Reuters

He also stayed at a Holiday Inn Express one time. —- docjim505
Leon E. Panetta, a former congressman and White House chief of staff, has been selected by President-elect Barack Obama to head the Central Intelligence Agency. The choice, disclosed Monday by Democratic officials, immediately revealed divisions in the party as two senior lawmakers questioned why Mr. Obama would nominate a candidate with limited experience in intelligence matters. —- Mark Mazzetti and Carl Hulse, NYT

Because TAO is an empty suit who doesn’t know what he’s doing? —- docjim505
With a strong background in economics, Panetta has little hands-on experience in intelligence. But he is known as a strong manager with solid organizational skills. —- Ed Henry, CNN

Because that’s what the CIA needs: somebody who knows how to schedule meetings and make org charts. —- docjim505
Little experience. Little hands-on experience. No operational experience. Oh, yeah: that’s JUST what we need at CIA.

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(*) If Panetta can explain the plot of "Quantum of Solace" to me, I’ll support him for DCI because he must be a genius to understand just what that movie was about other than boat and car chases.
 
Written By: docjim505
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If Panetta can explain the plot of "Quantum of Solace" to me, I’ll support him for DCI because he must be a genius to understand just what that movie was about other than boat and car chases.
It was written by a leftie so that explains everything you need to know about the movie
 
Written By: capt joe
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He’s probably there to cull any right-wingers still left at the CIA. After all, the Plame affair shows how anyone with a political agenda and an analyst job can run to the press and cause all kinds of trouble.

Sure, O owns the MSM, but best to be doubly or triply sure with the nation’s security, right?
 
Written By: Harun
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I hate to say this, and I am sure I will get invective shot across my bow for even whispering it, but here goes:

If we get hit with a terrorist attack anywhere in the United States during the watch of The Clown™, I swear I will go on every leftwing website and post that we deserved it for helping elect an Empty Suit for President who then appointed fellow empty suits to run things.

The Left has now been warned, and especially after 9/11: the country needs to be defended to the hilt. If The Clown™ doesn’t take it seriously and lets things be run by dickheads, then we will need another terrorist commission, this time to condemn an administration that should have tried to defend America but didn’t, because it put political appointees into responsible positions.

Panetta was the last step. The Clown™ just does not care about this country. Being President was all that was in this for him and his terrorist-loving and thieving and conniving buddies.
 
Written By: James Marsden
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Come on, gents. You only need experience if you’re the Republican nominee for Vice President.
 
Written By: Steverino
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Might as well have Greenspan as Secretary of Defense
 
Written By: Miraj Patel
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Panetta is a good choice. Obama has to clean out the Cheney-esque mentality that caused the US to act like an arrogant aggressive imperialist country the last few years, and recast American foreign policy to be more in line with the values on which this country was founded. The CIA needs to be changed, and the old mentality rejected. The fact is that the current financial crisis will force the US to completely redefine its goals and means to pursue them. This is a milder, yet significant, version of what happened to the USSR. Seriously, the US is not the power some of you think we are — that’s why we’re not respected or taken as seriously as we were ten years ago. It’s time to wake up to reality. The good news is that working closely with our allies in Europe and Asia, we can build a strong multilateral cooperative effort to tackle global problems. We if we get off the ignorant arrogant idea that we’re the best and scoff at the Europeans and others as somehow inferior (I think people who think that way are driven more by personal psychological factors than any sense of understanding the world scene), and understand that our power is limited and we need to work closely with others, we’ll be able to do a lot of good. So far, the Obama team is pointing that direction. For the first time in a long time, I feel like my country is on the right track.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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"(*) If Panetta can explain the plot of "Quantum of Solace" to me, I’ll support him for DCI because he must be a genius to understand just what that movie was about other than boat and car chases"

LOL. Now that is absolutely the funniest thing I have heard in weeks.

It’s gold, comic gold.

"The CIA needs to be changed, and the old mentality rejected. The fact is that the current financial crisis will force the US to completely redefine its goals and means to pursue them. "

Let’s say(for the sake of argument) that’s true, Mr. Erb: How does appointing a man with "no operational experience" make sense, in any way shape or form? What kind of psuedo-intellectual yoga positions must one bend one’s mind into for such an appointment to make a single iota of sense?

Does his experience in Congress (bastion of morality, wisdom, and probity) make him a good choice?

What about those Clinton Administration years?

Enlighten me.
 
Written By: Jim Sullivan
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Panetta is a good choice.
hahahahahahahaha. No need to read any further lest I virtually explode with laughter
 
Written By: capt joe
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For once I agree with you, Erb. Panetta is a good choice. But not for the reasons you bring to the table. Remember, Panetta was Clinton’s Chief of Staff when Clinton initiated Rendition as US policy - an initiative incorrectly attributed to Bush/Cheney. This nomination will allow Obama to retain any and all of the policies the Bush administration has successfully utilized to keep this country safe while keeping the Left quiet in the process.

With this one stroke, Rendition and waterboarding et al will continue but Panetta will not let the Public hear about it for 30 years.
 
Written By: SShiell
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Panetta is a good choice.
I think you’re probably right in a very, very backwards sort of way. You see, Panetta as a politician at the top of the world’s premier intelligence agency gives Obama much-needed cover to continue ALL the evil Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeldian policies that, to date, have worked. It’ll be a wonderful blue-skied day when Obama announces that His DCI just informed Him that the Guantanomo Bay Detention Center is closed for ever. The seas may even subside, just a little.
You and I, though, will be fully aware that somewhere in the world an intelligence expert represented by an unnamed block on one of Panetta’s org charts will be asking seemingly impertinent questions of some poor Muslim . . . .
Damn, sshiell beat me to it.
 
Written By: Arcs
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You and I, though, will be fully aware that somewhere in the world an intelligence expert represented by an unnamed block on one of Panetta’s org charts will be asking seemingly impertinent questions of some poor Muslim . . . .
And the key here, Arcs, is that the first time the American Public hears of that poor Muslim getting "interrogated" will be 30 years later.
For the first time in a long time, I feel like my country is on the right track.
You know - hear no evil, see no evil, . . . etc. So long as they don’t hear about it, the Left is fine with whatever Obama may choose to do.
 
Written By: SShiell
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I heard someone on the news last night say that having a political hack like Panetta in charge of the CIA was good because he could effectively get the Agency to produce intelligence product to meet the President’s priorities.


"I have read numerous spy novels, and I watch movies with spies in them. I believe this qualifies me for the Director of the CIA position"

Well, that depends on which ones you read/watched. That is why they have confirmation hearings, to make sure you were exposed to the right ’virtual experience’, or maybe ’simulated experience’.


"This could be rewritten:
On the merits, this idea that the FEMA Director needs to be a career disaster preparedness professional seems to have been pulled out of thin air."

Or,
"
On the merits, this idea that the Vice President needs to be a career politician seems to have been pulled out of thin air.

***************************
"Panetta is a good choice. ........."

I actually hurt my throat snorting with laughter when I read this. Ott Scerb, I think you are now superfluous, Erbie is pulling double duty. Who knew he has such a great sense of the absurd?
 
Written By: timactual
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If Panetta can explain the plot of "Quantum of Solace" to me, I’ll support him for DCI because he must be a genius to understand just what that movie was about other than boat and car chases.
Haven’t seen QoS yet. Does it rank above or below "Eagle Eye" on the Complete Dismemberment of Logic Scale?

 
Written By: Achillea
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"Haven’t seen QoS yet. Does it rank above or below "Eagle Eye" on the Complete Dismemberment of Logic Scale?"


Apples and oranges. Eagle Eye, while complete and utter trash (albeit with a great score), attempts a plot. Quantum of Solace makes no such attempt; it’s just a bunch of action scenes loosely hung together on cobwebs.



 
Written By: Jim Sullivan
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Steverino - Come on, gents. You only need experience if you’re the Republican nominee for Vice President.

You are SO right. I’d love to see a GOP senator make this very point - repeatedly - during the confirmation hearings.

Assuming, that is, that the democrat (spit) leadership even bothers to invite the GOP to the hearings.
 
Written By: docjim505
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I’ve begun to think that this choice may have been one of the preconditions Hillary Clinton laid ut to Obama during those long negotiation sessions we heard about... between the time she was a lock and the time the announcemnet on her being given state actually came.

comments here.
 
Written By: Bithead
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Oh, and BTW, by defending Panetta’s appointment on the basis that his political skills will keep the CIA from sabotaging Obama the way they did President Bush for the last 8 years, Leftards have just confirmed:

1. That a substantial portion of the CIA has been busy undermining the elected government in time of war.

2. That Joe Wilson and his non-covert wife were probably part of the effort.

3. That there has been a systematic program of leaking classified intelligence data for the purpose of #1.

4. And finally, that a substantial portion of the CIA, the Democrats in and out of Congress, and the MSM, are prima facie guilty of treason.

The steps that should be undertaken by every loyal US citizen (who are apparently a minority in this country) should be obvious.
 
Written By: SDN
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