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Gaza, Hamas, Iran and Israel
Posted by: McQ on Monday, January 12, 2009

If you ever doubted that Iran views the current conflict in Gaza as a proxy war, this report from an Egyptian official about the Iranian reaction to the cease-fire Egypt was trying to broker should help you resolve that doubt:
The Egyptian official said that the two Iranian emissaries, Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, and Said Jalili of the Iranian Intelligence Service, met in the Syrian capital with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal and Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Shallah.

"As soon as the Iranians heard about the Egyptian cease-fire initiative, they dispatched the two officials to Damascus on an urgent mission to warn the Palestinians against accepting it," the Egyptian government official told the Post.

"The Iranians threatened to stop weapons supplies and funding to the Palestinian factions if they agreed to a cease-fire with Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel and the US indirectly. They are doing this through Hamas in Palestine and Hizbullah in Lebanon".
At this point, Iran is willing to fight Israel to the last drop of Palestinian blood. And Hamas is so steeped in its hate for Israel, it appears to be a willing proxy.
The Egyptian official accused Iran of "encouraging" Hamas to continue firing rockets at Israel with the hope that this would trigger a war that would divert attention from Iran's nuclear plans.

"This conflict serves the interests of the Iranians," he said. "They are satisfied because the violence in the Gaza Strip has diverted attention from their nuclear ambitions. The Iranians are also hoping to use the Palestinian issue as a 'powerful card' in future talks with the Americans.

"They want to show that they have control over Hamas and many Palestinians".
I doubt that this war will divert attention from Iranian nuclear plans, however, Iran does see it as a propaganda opportunity which can be exploited to further isolate Israel from the rest of the world. Dead Palestinian civilians don't cost Iran anything but a few rockets, but they buy a mountain of bad press for the Israelis.

[As and aside: Strategically, Iran may also believe that keeping it going in Gaza at least until the Obama administration takes office may decrease the probability that Israel will strike Iran directly while engaged in Gaza and much less likely to do so when the new administration is in power.]

There are hopeful signs, however, that some in the Middle East are seeing Gaza for what it really is:
Karam Jaber, editor of the semi-official Egyptian weekly Roz Al-Youssef magazine, said that Hamas was caught between the Syrian anvil and the Iranian hammer. The Iranians, he said, prevented Hamas from negotiating a cease-fire with Israel, while the Syrians were blackmailing and intimidating the Hamas leaders in Damascus.

"History won't forget to mention that Hamas had inflicted death and destruction on the Palestinians," he said. "We hope that Hamas has learned the lesson and realizes that it has been fighting a war on behalf of others. We hope the Hamas leaders will realize that they are fighting a destructive war on behalf of the Iranians and Syrians".
Hamas is a cancer which must be excised if there is ever to be serious progress in any peace talks and movement toward a two state solution. But that won't happen as long as states like Iran and Syria see an advantage to keeping the fighting going.

Where Egypt and other moderate Arab states ought to be focusing their diplomatic muscle is on Syria. That is one player they need to remove from the game if at all possible. Doing so would make Iranian interference much more difficult but not impossible. Anything which complicates Iran's ability to get weapons to the terrorists of Hamas and expand their influence is a step in the right direction.

Meanwhile, despite world condemnation, Israel must continue the heavy lifting. Unlike when Israel agreed to the ceasefire with Hezbollah, which in the end strengthened Hezbollah's power and grip in southern Lebanon, Israel must carry the current operation to its end. Their mission must be the destruction of Hamas's ability to influence Palestinian politics in Gaza and the return of the more moderate PA to the area. That means destroying the Hamas infrastructure, killing its fighters and denying it the means of waging war. And that could mean the operation could last quite a while.
 
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Hamas is eternal...bombing won’t work...reach out to moderates...negotiate....dense righties...Iran is the real winner...Nazi-like War of Aggression. Address the issues, not emotions...no real counter-arguments...argumentum ad hominem...Juan Cole. I have PhD, from REAL schools and tenure. You do NOT have tenure, ergo your opinion is worthless.

Thank you.


 
Written By: Joe
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Joe, you must have ordered the amazing new Erb Verbiage Compressor. It slices, it dices, it reduces mounds of ponderous prose into a few key phrases, in just seconds.

Now, if we could just get Erb to buy one.
 
Written By: Grocky
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Brilliant analysis.

Barack Obama could use a good mind like yours to shore up his ’foreign policy’ team. Let’s hope he has liked minded men/women who understand this is a war that can be and must be won not only on the ground but in the minds of Islamic World. They, the masses in the Islamic World, seem unaware of their own roles in perpetuating their own misery.
 
Written By: Stan
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At this point, Iran is willing to fight Israel to the last drop of Palestinian blood.
That brought to mind this:
Longshanks: Not the archers. My scouts tell me their archers are miles away and no threat to us. Arrows cost money. Use up the Irish. The dead cost nothing.
 
Written By: MichaelW
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There is also a saying that Taiwanese independence supporters will fight to the last American soldier dies.
 
Written By: Harun
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Joe, you left out "paid killers", which in case you are unaware, appears to be any high school graduated, non college, military recruit.
 
Written By: looker
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Mercenary, semiliterate, over-paid killers, who have far too many amenities...producing some the most violent actions ever under-taken by a US Army...
 
Written By: Joe
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Wow, you remembered and summarized the other parts from previous discussions!
Damn you’re good.

I’d say this was one of his most fatuous phrases, so revealing in arrogance and prejudice.
All in two words "paid killers".
I wanted to make sure you captured that expression in your Erb synopsis.



 
Written By: looker
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Well with the help of Erb’s fans, we can have all the pleasure of Erb at about 10% of the verbiage....
 
Written By: Joe
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10% of the v-ERB-iage
yes
 
Written By: capt joe
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"some the most violent actions ever under-taken by a US Army..."

Shouldn’t that be any army?


"at about 10% of the verbiage"

What a blessing. 72 virgins shall be yours.
 
Written By: timactual
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I doubt that this war will divert attention from Iranian nuclear plans, however, Iran does see it as a propaganda opportunity which can be exploited to further isolate Israel from the rest of the world. Dead Palestinian civilians don’t cost Iran anything but a few rockets, but they buy a mountain of bad press for the Israelis.
Amazing. You have expressed your repeated support of the Maliki government in Baghdad. Again and again you have praised the ascednacy of the Maliki-led government. A government that owes its existence to American blood and treasure.

And yet when Maliki went to Tehran the weekend following the Gaza offensive, to offer his support for Iran, and Hamas, and when he called the Israeli actions criminal, you said nothing. You said nothing at all.

Bring American boys home now. Why are American lives in danger for this regime? Why should American service personnel’s lives be at risk in a country whose government openly supports Iran and Hamas? Answer: McQ’s ego.

Because McQ and the rest of the wingnut crew who post here here can’t admit - just like their Hero Bush 43 - that they f*ck*d up. Turns out when you invade Iraq and hand the government over to the Shia majority, that government might ally with - and send their leader to - the Shia-dominated government next door. Who could have guessed that? Certainly not a bunch of idiots stupid enough to believe that invading Iraq was a good idea to begin with.

And now you get posts like this one. Posts from McQ b*tch*ng about Iran. Posts devoid of any reflection, or analysis, or any suggestion that the author has any clue that the author’s previous cheerleading for invading Iraq and the Maliki government was in any way contradictory to the current post. After all, we have always been at war with Eurasia. Just like Bush, McQ has never erred; worse, even Bush acknowledges PR errors. McQ would never do such a thing.

It’s a good thing that American troops had to die so that Iran could have a stronger ally on its western border, huh McQ?
 
Written By: dude08
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Hey, Dude.

YAWN!
 
Written By: SShiell
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looker - Joe, you left out "paid killers", which in case you are unaware, appears to be any high school graduated, non college, military recruit.

My, Erb really hit a nerve with that phrase, didn’t he? Too bad he is overgeneralizing and grouping people together, which is the first step toward a holocaust.
 
Written By: docjim505
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I guess you know you’ve arrived when you have your own personal troll.
 
Written By: McQ
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They, the masses in the Islamic World, seem unaware of their own roles in perpetuating their own misery.
How very astute you are. Yes, they are completely unaware of being taken for the fools they are by their own leadership.
 
Written By: SShiell
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Docjim - yep, mr open minded, hit a major nerve in me with that one.
I like to visit with these paid killers, friends of my sons, whenever they’re home on leave.

Gotta say, this new paid killer training sure is good, because you’d never know to talk to these guys. What’s amazing is the pseudo lives they pretend to have when I know, thanks to Professor Scott Erb, they are actually myrmidons, uniformed, flag carrying mafioso if you like, eagerly waiting their next slaughter of innocents for pay.


No fault of their own you know, after all 18-19 year olds aren’t wise enough to make their own decisions, unless of course they choose to go to U of M and take Professor Erb’s courses. No, these guys and girls who joined up to serve their country were all fooled, bamboozled and brainwashed (not necessarily in that order).

 
Written By: looker
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" paid killers"

I must say, they do not seem to be very efficient, and must be dreadfully overpaid for the number of bodies they produce. One would think that with all the weapons and resources we devote to them that they could produce a higher body count.

To paraphrase former Clinton Secretary of State Allbright, what good are these paid killers if they aren’t killing?
 
Written By: timactual
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You know though, on a national scale, I’m trying to decide if paid killers, potential Erb students gone to uniform (much akin no doubt to "going to seed"), are worse than being paid bloviators, a class of individuals Dr. Erb has very personal, very intimate knowledge of.
 
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